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Ibiza conked out, showed battery light but no spark!

Bentley1989

Mk2 Ibiza 1.4s
Dec 18, 2007
343
0
Hartlepool
theres where the leads go, had to take the air intake box off to get to them

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and ive got the dizzy cap off to to try and clean that up incase its that makin the car not start either

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excuse the oil, got a bit of a leak...
 

suj

Wheel Connoisseur
Jan 1, 2009
5,808
1
Birmingham
they are different from mine, well them ones just pull off!
its gonna take a lot of force, so keep trying!
 

Bentley1989

Mk2 Ibiza 1.4s
Dec 18, 2007
343
0
Hartlepool
got them off and they were fine
i realised that i done the starter a while ago and never out the clip back on so the plug fell out lol
all sorted now, daft little problem, cheers for the help tho man
 

ibiza_fresca

Guest
Hiya, i'm new here! Ok my Ibiza basically broke down yesterday and i'm wondering what on earth caused it. I was going along when suddenly the car lost power and the battery light went on.

I pulled over to the side of the road, and haven't been able to start it since! When i turn the key, the lights on the dashboard light up as usual, alarm works so i'm not sure the battery's causing the problem, but i can't get the car to start.

Dad tried to jump start the car but that didn't work. He also noticed when looking under the bonnet there was no spark

On another note, prior to this the car has been a bit hesitant when accelerating, we changed the spark plugs about 3 months ago. But now we can't even get the engine on!!

AA has had to tow the car back. They have said there is no spark, they have checked the coil, they said that works ok. They checked the distributor, and said the rotor arm turns when the engine is turned over. But they're not sure if it is the distributor or the computer. Does anyone have advice on this matter?

Also, would i have the ecu warning light if there was a problem with the computer? I do not have this light up on my dashboard.

It has been very cold lately, could this contribute to the problem?


my 1.4 did the same thing about 6 months ago. it cut out but started fine the next day, but it did the same thing about two days later.

it turned out to be the distributor/hall sender. it also felt as if it was running out of fuel when it cut out despite having plenty in. hope that helps :)
 

hannah2008

Guest
Hiya guys,

Ok me and dad had a look at the dizzy cap today and it had a little bit of white crusty stuff as rob said, anyway we tidied it up a bit and put it back in (i took a pic of it here), but car still won't start!

I finally know what the coil pack is and yes it was definitely checked by the AA guy and that's ok. So we've checked the dizzy cap, spark plugs (recently replaced) and coil pack. I supposed that only leaves the leads now, but they look ok too.

We made sure to clean up the points on the cap... it seems like it's in good condition as far as i can see.

Any more ideas?

Han x

p.s. i tried to post a pic but it wouldn't let me!!
 

robreidmotors

RobReid
May 10, 2008
677
0
Lancashire
Hi Hannah

Good stuff on the distributor cap. Was the carbon rod okay? you can see it in the photo above, the little black plastic thing in the roof of the distributor cap?

Also, did you actually check the plugs or assume they are okay because they have only just been replaced? Sorry to sound pushy but its always good to re-check.

Lastly, I would definately take a plug out, attach it to a lead and rest it on the engine and crank it over, see if it sparks. If it does then its a no fuel issue.
 
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Dolly_Gti

G60 spooling up.
Aug 15, 2006
1,412
0
china town
hannah.. wolverhampton.. you hot or not? ill fix it lol! im a yam yam

yam yam yam lol. my valver wouldnt start just before i owned it, would not crank turned out to be the ignition switch ( behind where you put the key in)

if it cranks it can only be spark or fuel not getting to the cylinder pretty basic stuff.
 

hannah2008

Guest
Hiya...

Ok still the same problem! We fitted in a new ignition coil and it's still not working.

I have been told by several mechanics that it is most likely the crankshaft sensor... i was just wondering whether any of you have replaced this before?

We have been looking in the haynes manual to find out where it is but it seems completely useless!!

Ta

Han
 

robreidmotors

RobReid
May 10, 2008
677
0
Lancashire
Hi Hannah

The crusty stuff on the dizzy cap points would not be there if the coil was not working, as the crust is caused by high voltage and moisture.

I can help you but I need answers to questions.

When you cleaned the crusty stuff off the contacts did you take out the spark plugs and clean them?
 

hannah2008

Guest
Hiya Rob, the spark plugs are all fine, we cleaned them all up. The HT lead looks in very good condition on the inside and out. Our only concern with the spark plugs is that the silver things they slot into don't seem to hold the spark plugs in as securely as they could do? Just wondering if that's the same with all Ibiza's...

It seems the current is not getting past the ignition coil! Which is what made the mechanics say it's the crank sensor

Han

P.S. Interesting fact about the crusty stuff!!
 

robreidmotors

RobReid
May 10, 2008
677
0
Lancashire
It seems a pain but its important to check the basics first, they are the most important bits.

I havent asked this before, but is the battery charged? And does the engine actually turn over without starting? Or does the engine not turn over at all?

Not quite sure what you meant by the slotting in. Do you mean the holes the spark plugs themselves screw into? or that the leads seem loose on the spark plugs?

The best thing to do next, which will rule out the ignition system (apart from crank sensor, we will come to that) is to take out one plug, attach it to its lead and rest it on the engine.

Then crank the engine over just a couple of times and see if it sparks, it should be a nice blue spark. On my own i usually wind down the drivers window, make sure its in neutral, and that i can see the plug, and crank it from outside the car through the window.

Also, after you have done this, smell the spark plug hole, see if you can smell petrol. Then let me know on here.
 
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hannah2008

Guest
We did some of these checks again ourselves yesterday when we fitted the ignition coil in hope it would work...

The battery was charged up ok, had been charged for a few hours beforehand. When you turn the ignition the engine turns but there's no spark.

Dad did the spark check again and still no spark. We looked at the HT lead which seemed ok. The spark plugs had been cleaned up. The petrol comes through ok so that doesn't seem to be the problem.

It's the leads that the spark plugs are connected to that don't seem as secure as they could be, they slot into a silver thing which is then connected to the rest of the lead. It isn't loose but we just thought it could be a little bit tighter. I doubt it would cause a problem as big as this though.


Something else - before the car conked out it was VERY hesitant when accelerating, shaking around when it had to go faster, sometimes i had to put my foot right down to the floor to make it go faster quicker!! You ever had the same problem?
 
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