What Alarm?

[ChrisGTL]

I've come to the conlusion I love my car so much I would be much happier if it had a Thatcham Alarm on it.

Just wanted to get opinions as to what to choose

-Clifford
-TOAD
-Cobra
-Gemini

Any bad experinces with any of them? I had a Clifford with the intellistart on my now very old Pug. I think it cost me about £500 fitted about 7 yrs ago, but with a Clifford is it just as good as a TOAD? but without the Clifford name?

Has it reduced anyones insurance premium?


Can't believe its taken me long to even think about a really loud annoying alarm to help me sleep better.

 

[richybigman]

I had a clifford on my old Saxo VTR and only had one problem where the door pin broke but that was due to the French Quality! Other than that it worked when someone smashed the rear window but never reduced my insurance.

 

[benjiwales]

your car already has an alarm and immobilser, why not just get a tracker better than an alarm, cos the thieves will just break into your house for your keys

 

[Craig Senior]

I thought the alarm on the Leon was Thatcham Cat 1 anyway.

 

[Paulycupra]

If it has the fold out key it should be a cat 1. If you still want an aftermarket alarm i would go for a Toad as they are sooooo reliable. Also a sigma (part of the Toad group), they work well to. If you really want a Clifford get it installed by an engineer that has been fitting them for a good while, because it they are fitted by the likes of GAP security then it will be ultra unreliable!!! I know as I have re-installed a few of their installs.

 

[Paulycupra]

Just one more thing I have now fitted about 7-800 Toads with only one being faulty!!!!

 

[daveyonthemove]

As far as i know the Leon FR TDI and CUPRA's have CAT1 alarms fitted (i might be wrong, but i was told this by the dealer) so look for a Blackjax instead, then it won't matter if someone does break in and get your keys cause the car will only go far enough up the road to give you a chance to get away, or put the theif off coming back.
Just found a site selling them:
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/5090.html

 

[dainott2105]

thought that Clifford and Toad are the same company now!?!? I had a Clifford on my old car and was a little temperamental on times but rather that then not work at all.

 

[ChrisGTL]

There is a guy on ebay (also has a shop website) that is selling/installing TOAD AI606 system for £209 inc VAT & fitting.

Says it comes with all the stamped certificates and he is a approved installer.

Seems like a good price as other lpaces are sellnig the TOAD AI606 for £299 not inc fitting.


@daveyonthemove - That blackjax is a addon for a G5 clifford. I would need a clifford G5 first then a additional £99.99 for blackjax.

If the FR come with a Cat1 alarm as standard (and it does its job well) I think I would be better off with a tracker. Not sure who to ask about the FR coming with a cat1 though as my local SEAT garage told me that moving the headlight range switch whilst driving wont make them move.......he said I have to be stationary for them to move

 

[Craig Senior]

Thatcham Cat1 list here: http://www.thatcham.org/security/pdfs/categories/PassengerCarCAT1.pdf

Standard Leon alarm is on the list.

 

[ChrisGTL]

If it has the fold out key it should be a cat 1. If you still want an aftermarket alarm i would go for a Toad as they are sooooo reliable. Also a sigma (part of the Toad group), they work well to. If you really want a Clifford get it installed by an engineer that has been fitting them for a good while, because it they are fitted by the likes of GAP security then it will be ultra unreliable!!! I know as I have re-installed a few of their installs.

I don't have a fold out key.

Mine is the one that kinda looks like this:-

 

[ChrisGTL]

Thatcham Cat1 list here: http://www.thatcham.org/security/pdfs/categories/PassengerCarCAT1.pdf

Standard Leon alarm is on the list.

Thanks for this.

 

[gae1431]

There is a guy on ebay (also has a shop website) that is selling/installing TOAD AI606 system for £209 inc VAT & fitting.

Says it comes with all the stamped certificates and he is a approved installer.

Seems like a good price as other lpaces are sellnig the TOAD AI606 for £299 not inc fitting.


@daveyonthemove - That blackjax is a addon for a G5 clifford. I would need a clifford G5 first then a additional £99.99 for blackjax.

If the FR come with a Cat1 alarm as standard (and it does its job well) I think I would be better off with a tracker. Not sure who to ask about the FR coming with a cat1 though as my local SEAT garage told me that moving the headlight range switch whilst driving wont make them move.......he said I have to be stationary for them to move

I agree with the statement above for the Toad AI606, i have had 2 fitted in my last 2 Ibiza cupra's and they did not let me down. Also they are cat 1 and you get the certificate to fax to insurers.

You can pay extra for window enclosure but it is a pucker alarm with all the bits / sensors you need, and at a good price. £209 seems a cracking price.

Go for it

 

[Romeoisgraham]

Not all the Leons have a cat 1 alarm. only the ones made after a certain date. (dont know the year and cant be bothered to find out)

dont judge me, you didnt bother to find out either.

 

[lc_allan]

No the blackjax can be fitted standalone. I know it says on some sites it a G5 add on but it can be used on it's own. Works with most CL/alarm systems.

 

[Craig Senior]

Not all the Leons have a cat 1 alarm. only the ones made after a certain date. (dont know the year and cant be bothered to find out)

dont judge me, you didnt bother to find out either.

I did

Cupra R: July 02 - Sept 05
Cupra: Jan 03 - Dec 04
FR: Oct 04 - Sept 05

 

[Romeoisgraham]

I did

Cupra R: July 02 - Sept 05
Cupra: Jan 03 - Dec 04
FR: Oct 04 - Sept 05

smarty pants

 

[Craig Senior]

smarty pants

It's a minute of my life I'll never get back but what can I say, I'm helpful

 

[ChrisGTL]

My FR is Sep 05 - one of the last to be made I believe.

So I guess it does indeed have a Cat1 alarm as standard.

 

[oldman]

could ask seat customer services for clarification on this and fax something to back up the statement

@craig senior
does that cupra statement inc Diesel & Petrol??