Just got the car back, took my guy bloody ages, front was a right ballache. Had to drop the front subframe out to get it in. Pulled into the garage to see the big red bars showing through the rims, looks ![[B)]](/forums/styles/seatcupra/oldforumsmileys/shades.gif "Cool [B)]")
Not so noticeable so much in the pics but they are chunky mofos, weigh a tonne, expensive but they look it. Quality is superb.
Anyway, took it out for a quick thrash, took it gently at first. Rear is adjustable and set to medium stiff. First thing you notice is a bit of extra fidgeting, not so noticeable on smaller bumps but you can feel the side of the car 'drop' into dips more. I also noticed a bit more wheel hop when the fronts broke traction.
First test, into a small roundabout, not so fast, wasn't too sure if the big increase in rear bar will pickup the inside rear and send me into a bush. It didn't, swang right round the roundabout and shot out the other side with a masive smirk on my face
Unbelievably level right through, fantastic.
Shoot down the dual carriageway and with a bit more va va voom pile into the large fast roundabout. The lack of roll means the confidence you have squeezing the loud pedal mid bend just goes through the roof. I found myself sitting quite calmly on the limit, steering the nose with the throttle. Before the lean would limit your enthusiasm but now the hooligan factor can be turned up to eleven. Mid bend balance is excellent without worrying about snappy lift off oversteer, just feels much more neutral. To be honest this wasn't the main purpose of fitting the bars. I really rate the standard suspension but wanted less roll without ruining the ride. Unlikely I'll make the rear stiffer.
Having a thicker rear bar decreases weight transfer at the front which has the pleasant side effect of keeping more pressure on the inside front which is very noticeable exiting the bend under power. The front seems to break away more as a pair and not wildly spinning up the inside. It's improved traction at the front so much I'm having second thoughts about the inclusion of a new diff now. It does make me want to turn off the tcs alot more now because I'm much more confident pushing it hard and playing with the limits.
It's a right weapon now, mid corner/exit speed has shot up. It's so much more exploitable than the nose-led stock setup. I've been down the coilover route before and I'd strongly suggest LCR owners look at uprated bars before ditching the standard kit.
So in short, I am very pleased, they do exactly what I expected them to without having to resort to dropping it on coilovers. 90% of the ride compliance of the stock setup with so much more body control. The thicker bars are definitely the missing link that makes the whole setup come together so well.
Colour me impressed
Not so noticeable so much in the pics but they are chunky mofos, weigh a tonne, expensive but they look it. Quality is superb.
Anyway, took it out for a quick thrash, took it gently at first. Rear is adjustable and set to medium stiff. First thing you notice is a bit of extra fidgeting, not so noticeable on smaller bumps but you can feel the side of the car 'drop' into dips more. I also noticed a bit more wheel hop when the fronts broke traction.
First test, into a small roundabout, not so fast, wasn't too sure if the big increase in rear bar will pickup the inside rear and send me into a bush. It didn't, swang right round the roundabout and shot out the other side with a masive smirk on my face
Unbelievably level right through, fantastic.Shoot down the dual carriageway and with a bit more va va voom pile into the large fast roundabout. The lack of roll means the confidence you have squeezing the loud pedal mid bend just goes through the roof. I found myself sitting quite calmly on the limit, steering the nose with the throttle. Before the lean would limit your enthusiasm but now the hooligan factor can be turned up to eleven. Mid bend balance is excellent without worrying about snappy lift off oversteer, just feels much more neutral. To be honest this wasn't the main purpose of fitting the bars. I really rate the standard suspension but wanted less roll without ruining the ride. Unlikely I'll make the rear stiffer.
Having a thicker rear bar decreases weight transfer at the front which has the pleasant side effect of keeping more pressure on the inside front which is very noticeable exiting the bend under power. The front seems to break away more as a pair and not wildly spinning up the inside. It's improved traction at the front so much I'm having second thoughts about the inclusion of a new diff now. It does make me want to turn off the tcs alot more now because I'm much more confident pushing it hard and playing with the limits.
It's a right weapon now, mid corner/exit speed has shot up. It's so much more exploitable than the nose-led stock setup. I've been down the coilover route before and I'd strongly suggest LCR owners look at uprated bars before ditching the standard kit.
So in short, I am very pleased, they do exactly what I expected them to without having to resort to dropping it on coilovers. 90% of the ride compliance of the stock setup with so much more body control. The thicker bars are definitely the missing link that makes the whole setup come together so well.
Colour me impressed
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