Rear spacers

rashcupra

MV AGUSTA & 1.8T DUB MK4
Oct 15, 2006
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exsplain how spacing stub axle is a more reliable way of spacing the rear wheels also whats your diagnosis on hub spacers puting more strain on the bearings?????????????
 

joonspoon

175hp. 275lbs/ft.
Nov 18, 2006
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Spacers will increase the load on your bearings, the better way to achieve a track width increase with no extra bearing load is to space the stub axles. I expect most on here would probably not understand why. . . . .

OK, I'm not sure why. Care to enlighten me? :shrug:
Could you post a few details about how to space the stub axles as well please?

Thanks mate.
Guy.
 

rashcupra

MV AGUSTA & 1.8T DUB MK4
Oct 15, 2006
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it wont put any more pressure on the BEARINGS it will be on the suspension if anything!!!!!

to space the stub axle something custom would need to be made. and ul probably throw the wheel alignment well out and ul cause bigger problems when the car is crabbing down the road :lol:

20mm each side is never going to cause big enough stress to reuine your bearings life in the cars lifetime!
 

ANdy947

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it wont put any more pressure on the BEARINGS it will be on the suspension if anything!!!!!

to space the stub axle something custom would need to be made. and ul probably throw the wheel alignment well out and ul cause bigger problems when the car is crabbing down the road :lol:


Oh really. . . .

The 15mm stub spacers on my MK2 dont cause any problems, infact quite the opposite :rolleyes:
 

rashcupra

MV AGUSTA & 1.8T DUB MK4
Oct 15, 2006
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maybe with 30mm silly spacers the bearing will see some problems but 20mm in not enough to cause any problems.

ive never heard of spacing the stub axle have you got any pics or anything of your mk2 setup?
 

ANdy947

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Sorry no pictures of them at the mo, maybe when i strip the car down, but that wont be for a while.

The rear bearings on the newer cars are different to the older stuff with the roller bearings, but, fitting spacers, or running lower ET wheel or a combination of both will put more pressure on the bearings, and couple that with stiffer suspension and harder driving, and you can easy kill wheel bearings.

I run 9x16 ET 15 wheels, which are already 20mm off the original ET, i then fitted widetrack suspension up front and needed to space the rears to suit, 15mm spacers were not an option due to bearing life, so i had a set of spacers machine up from flat plate with holes in them to match the stub.

You simply unbolt the stub and fit the spacer with longer bolts.

You dont change the load the bearing see's, but you do get the track width increase.

I much prefer the setup and would do the same to the Polo if i decide to modify it that far.


Also, if you are clever, and know a good machine shop you can alter rear wheel geometry, toe camber etc with stub spacers aswell. . . . But thats pretty serious stuff and prob not for road cars
 

Bubsy

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'Pretty' serious stuff is an undserstatement. I do agree with your method of spacing. I had a highly modified Uno with a total of 60mm wider track at the back down to a very good machine shop.

It was also them that did all the toe and camber and what have you. I didn't understand what they did, regardless of numerous explanations, but the car was unbelievable round the twisty stuff and under hard acceleration or braking.

I wouldn't go through all that again though, it took months for them to get it to the point where they were happy.
 

vwpologti

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You obviously feel very critical about a bit of light hearted banter/re your car.
And I was providing honest advice, that getting your suspension & traction sorted would be a big help, for the power your car is pushing out.

The rest was just a bit of a laugh, but you obviously took it to heart!

If you bring my car into it - I wouldn't even WASTE my money trying to make my car look like yours - is it possible to get chrome letters " C H A V " glued to the tailgate?

If I were you, I'd think about a respray (sort out that garish Yellow) before trying to sort out a car that can't "handle" your 633bhp! ...perhaps the extra bull$hit you talk gives it all those extra bhp's! :lol: (works out cheaper than nitrous does it?). LOL.

bizzaboy was you just born a bellend???
 

joonspoon

175hp. 275lbs/ft.
Nov 18, 2006
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Having read this thread about WHEEL SPACERS am I right in thinking that the 20mm spacers from AC services (as highlighted by Ed Butler and Ibiza 130 tdi) are OK to fit? :shrug:
Regards Guy.
 

tasty_kebab

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Jun 6, 2006
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Does anybody know if Eibach do hubcentric spacers? I remember someones signature stating their Mk4 had "Eibach hubcentric spacers" but the Eibach website doesnt even mention the word.
 

Bubsy

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Contact R-Tec if Eibach are the manufacturer you are after. They offered mew them but hey are £65. There are cheaper ones out there that are the same quality.
 

Guinness

Finally got the BMW
Nov 29, 2006
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Im thinking about it. Whats the deal with insurance and hub spacers? Cant imagine they like them too much
 

air121005

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Sep 28, 2006
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might be worth mentioning as you don't want a no pay scenario on a technicality!

after recently upgrading my suspension, then obviously declaring to the insurance, they sent me a "modification declaration form" and a section on this asked if there was any modifications to the "axles".
as the spacers are increasing the track width, this probaly is then classed as a modification from the factory standard to the axles imo.
 
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