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I dont get the whole spacers thing/ you bolt them onto the hub? Yes but does that not mean you need longer wheel bolts? And then What about the locking wheel bolt/nut?
Yes spacers fit onto your wheel hubs.
Yes you need longer wheel bolts.
You can get longer locking wheel bolts if you like or just don`t bother.
i havent got lockin wheel bolts on any of my wheels (didt come as standard) bill can do u a good deal on the spacers and bolts if u asked him (in his section badger5)
Ric 2001
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Got an engineering firm to make me two long bolt with the exact pattern of my anti theift locking nut.
Does anyone steal alloy wheels these days? Surely it is quicker and easier to steal the entire car then mess about removing four big heavy alloys wheels with tyres? Not that i would do either as i am not a low life piece of scum .
Here you go mate - theyre zinc + gold/yellow chromate plated and seem very good quality indeed - a few friends and i have them and they are perfect!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20MM-Hubcentr...yZ122154QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20MM-Hubcentr...yZ122154QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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Ric 2001
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Never seen that type of spacer before only ones with direct bolt through. Good idea though. Still trust longer bolts though
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Now why didn`t i find that when i did a search !
I have heard if this type before but didn`t find anyone selling my fitment. It sounds alot better idea to me as less stress is put on the bolts plus putting your alloy on and off is a real pain in the ass when lining up all the holes correct. They are alot cheaper then the sets i just bought for the front and rear as well, £180 for both sets with longer wheel bolts when i could have spent £70 for what looks like a better set up.
Why? Surely using shorter bolts puts less strain on the bolts and the bolts holding the spacer to the hub cannot undo as the alloy wheel is bolted flat against the spacer. If a bolt does brake while using shorter bolts you still have nine bolts holding the alloywheel/spacer/hub together with longer bolter you only have four or even more scrary three if it started as a four stud alloy.
What he said
And just to note, the OEM bolts do go into the 20mm spacers however the special Kei Racing Alloy ones dont by around 1-2mm. So there may be some machining necessary if your bolts are unusually long ofcourse.
The spacers on the e-bay link bolt to the hub then in turn you bolt your wheel to the spacer?
?? if you have a 5 stud wheel then you've still only 5 studs holding the wheel to the hub/spacer?
Using a shorter bolt puts more strain on a shorter area - if it was me i use bolts long enough to give the head a tight seat to the wheel (holding it firmly in place - allowing no movement or "wobble" of the wheel) and giving maximum thread in to the hub/spacer - surely this is the safest option? - then the load is spread over more threads which will spread the forces seen by each bolt? "Surely using shorter bolts puts less strain on the bolts" - i disagree - why are wheel bolts so long then - if this was the case they only need to be long enough to engage a couple of threads?
PJ.
Actually for a bolt to maintain its full strength, it must be inserted by 2.5times its diameter. So for a wheel nut it would need almost 30mm projection into whatever it is fitting into.
Sorry but what you are saying makes no logical sense at all. So what you are saying is a long say 70mm bolt is under less stress when trying to hold three sets of rotating masses together over a longer distance then a bolt at 35mm holding two rotating masses together over a shorter distance???? As for wobble how are three masses with each one is bolted onto the other so there is no possible movement able to happen going to wobble more then if you have three masses bolted together over a longer distance with the centre mass not held in place by any threaded action only by a sandwich effect of the top mass being pulled down onto it against the lower mass when the main force that is going to cause the wobble is rotational not up or down the bolt length. You are still using your standard wheel bolts that are going just as far into the wheel spacer as when it went into your wheel hub. The alloy wheel bolts are not getting bolted on top of the spacer/hub bolts but into there on threaded hole.
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