The torque reading on Vag Com onlworks accurately on std cars, once its remapped you can't rely on it.
The torque reading on Vag Com onlworks accurately on std cars, once its remapped you can't rely on it.
yeh just spoke to pete the now, he says won't make any difference at all wether i put it in before or after...only bi*ch is though, that beacause i've had an apr trial he reckons something might be wrong with the ecu n that it would require him to solder the ecu???... im a bit annoyed if that the case... should i contact APR???
Can Sarah shed any light on this please?
Can Sarah shed any light on this please?
No, an RR is about as accurate as the torque reading on a std car. The torque reading on remapped car is about as accurate as my mate jack telling me my 0-60 is 3 secs cuz he timed on his Timex while I sped past his bedroom window.
I'm nosey
What facts do you base it on?
People have repeated back to back tests with std, panel filter, induction kit, enclosed induction kit, relocated induction kit - with otherwise standardised components & have shown either no gain, or minimal loses or minimal gains from a any modified components when compared to a paper filter.
If it's a question of air fuel, an accurately reading MAF ensures that's right (along with MAP etc)
I'm not knocking any products, just not sure why you think it makes a blind bit of difference at this level of tuning
I wouldn't let anyone open my ECU unless they will pay for a new one when / if it fails.
Some tuners don't have the tools to flash to stock (if some trial codes have been loaded) - so I would go back to APR & ask them to flash to stock (this may cost) but it will be better than having your ECU openned.
The talk about the filter making any difference?
I just PM'd him about changing the spring in my DV and he said he would have to change the map if i did that?
maybe he's confused about the spring in the wastegate.
spring in a DV needs no change (though the one that's in it will most likely be fine)
spring in a DV needs no change (though the one that's in it will most likely be fine)
As i said im no expert mate.
Ive just PM'd himasking about changing spring in my DV and he thinks that he would have to tweak my map ifi changed it.
So if it needs tweaking cos of different spring in a DV then i would of though putting a differen CAI on would also make a difference?
Im probably wrong though.
Going of what i have been told thats my opinion wrote there.
Unless of course i havemis understood???
I've always been of the opinion that the map comes last. The map will be based on many variables, many of which can be affected by changing engine parts, even if they are only minor bolt-on parts. Now I appreciate that they may only make a tiny difference, but it's a difference none the less.
I'm no mechanic so I'm not for one second going to argue with somebody obviously more clued up than me. But I personally would prefer to know the map I'm getting - assuming we're talking custom here - is based around the exact setup of my engine and related items. Even minor changes can have an affect so I'd personally want it to be as accurate as possible.
I'm no mechanic so I'm not for one second going to argue with somebody obviously more clued up than me. But I personally would prefer to know the map I'm getting - assuming we're talking custom here - is based around the exact setup of my engine and related items. Even minor changes can have an affect so I'd personally want it to be as accurate as possible.
You're presuming that:
1) there's something wrong with the OE kit you're removing
2) that the resolution / tools used to taylor the map effectively
3) old sk00l tech that didn't have adaptive & clever ECU's
1) there's something wrong with the OE kit you're removing
2) that the resolution / tools used to taylor the map effectively
3) old sk00l tech that didn't have adaptive & clever ECU's
This is the way i always thought aswell mate
Im not arguing with people that are more clued up than me, im purely just going of what different people are telling me.
No, not really to be honest. I'm presuming that the new filter will flow differently at different speeds to the OE kit and the tuner knows exactly how to extract the very best performance out of the engine in any state of tune.
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