New Cupra Test

Eri

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standing infront of the car - absolute back left hand side - you can just make out the turbo ID plate

I have the number of the unit they had for the Super Copa, but didn't get any clear images on the motorshow (though I will recheck)

When the time comes i will make some pictures and when you don't see the
things you need you can point that out to me and i will try to make better
one's. And of course i won't forget the outside of the car.:D

Cheers,

Eric
 

Feel

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Jun 12, 2003
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I have the feeling its a revised K03, it seems like too low a power figure for it to be running a K04. Its like haveing the old 225 running as a 190. Its going to be the same with the 30th Anniversary GTi, thats set to be around 230.

At the end of the day it comes down to how it drives in the real world and how individuals find it, i wont take the review too much to heart.

I think there will be ample tuning possibilities for it, but it may require at least a k04 being slapped on there.

K03s, k04.01, k04.23 then?

Where's that picture M0rk took of the fr's turbo plate again?
 

Glovepup

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This engine derivative is unique to Seat. It has an enlarged turbocharger, strengthened pistons and con-rods, and a new cylinder head with bigger injectors. Seat won’t confirm it, but we suspect these are mechanically the same mods that the Audi S3 engine gets.

That above is from autocar, fingers cross they are right!!!
 

slimtater

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I still think the "theme" of the reviews is about the same as when the LCR arrived on the scene. It was pitched against the Focus RS, Audi S3 and the like and it was very rarely voted as the outright winner. The thing is though, people like myself bought them and loved their all round ability. I am sure I will be doing the same with the new Cupra. If you put together all the positive comments in the various reviews, it does once again point towards a good all rounder. Not sure why journos are moaning that it doesn't feel that quick or powerful. How many hot front wheel drive cars have been ruined by torque steer? The VXR for one isn't so nice in that department. The Focus ST is very clever - listening to that glorious engine makes you forget that its styling is a little bit Halfords and the wheels remind me of probably the worst ones TSW made - the Venoms!! I work hard for my money and I would feel very smug if I got more for it with a Cupra than a Golf GTi. The couple of grand saved on getting a like for like spec could be well spent on subtle mods (Revo etc).
The only thing that I am a little puzzled by is the delay in arriving in the UK. If this results in a better car, then I will be happy. I have been trying to study the latest pictures (Autocar - the black one looks stunning) and I cannot tell if there is a LCR type splitter added. It is mentioned as a black chin spoiler in some PR material. Perhaps it was still on the back seat when the press drove the cars as per LCR!!!
Bring on a red one.
 

tris

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Feb 25, 2005
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Now we have got actual photos of a black Leon Cupra we can do a direct comparison with the black FR with Aerokit in this thread:

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=102687

Who thinks the Cupra looks best and who prefers the Aerokit, based purely on looks? Have SEAT made the right decision?

Personally I can't make up my mind.:confused:

having seen the cupra at the motorshow and cupra eddie's aerokit leon i have to say i like the aerokit one (at the mo anyway)
 

WeeJase

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still can't help thinking SEAT are maybe missing out on some of the hot hatch market a bit with only offering a 5 door.
as a "neutral",it looks head and shoulder better than the rest (vxr second),its going to handle pretty darn well and has the tuneablility to make it go like a scolded cat.
but maybe they are aiming it away from baseball capped drivers by adding the back doors. 2 door cupra R in a years time? :D
 

Bonzy1800

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Sep 16, 2005
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SEAT won't release technical info like Turbo codes, a dealer maybe able to check once it appears on the ETKA parts system.

the part number for the turbo is 06F145701E BWJ engine code as i posted yesterday must of been missed :(

06F145701C for BWA if i remember rightly

whether its a K04 i dont know but it does have KKK after the part number for BWJ
 

papdog

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still can't help thinking SEAT are maybe missing out on some of the hot hatch market a bit with only offering a 5 door.
as a "neutral",it looks head and shoulder better than the rest (vxr second),its going to handle pretty darn well and has the tuneablility to make it go like a scolded cat.
but maybe they are aiming it away from baseball capped drivers by adding the back doors. 2 door cupra R in a years time? :D

I can't see a 3dr ever being produced. Has never been seen to be needed before and that was the whole point of styling the car like it is - to do away with the need to have a 3 door. It's not something you could do with the current bodystyle and I think if they were to re-design the costs would outrun the sales
 

xJib

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The new Leon like the old Leon looks really good as a 5 door. And would look crap IMO as a 3 door. Now the Golf and Astra look much better as a 3 door, and the Focus looks crap as either 3 or 5 door.
 

cmc

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My local dealer just ordered a demo Cupra today he told me. Hopes to get it in shortly (not sure when though).

And why isnt the Cupra as tunable? Its looking fairly positive that its sporting a K04 turbo now, ala S3, so possibly upto 300hp capable. And what folks forget is whats standard on the SEAT, will cost thousands more to add to the Golf, spec a Golf GTI to the same spec. ;)

Focus ST is comparable actually again if you consider spec, its much like an ST2 or ST3, which is broadside of £19k.

As always down to personal choice, some will like, some won't.

My deposit is standing by. ;)

I completely agree Z, but hopefully people consider the bigger picture and don't just compare headline prices to the golf. At a glance it appears pricey next to a golf but when you stand back it's much better value e.g. bixenon headlights as standard and all the other add ons.

cmc
 

Greytop

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Sep 19, 2006
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I've read the the reviews, there seems to be a slightly 'put down' theme runninng through them.

For my money the Leon Cupra is definately the best looking. The Golf (there door) comes second but there are too many about. Trailing in their wake the Ford 'cough' Focus and Vauxhall :shrug:,
Well the Ford is a Ford and the Vauxhall, well that's a Vauxhall :) Just my opinion....I've owned both marques in the dim and distant past ;)
 

chris285

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Nov 26, 2004
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I've read the the reviews, there seems to be a slightly 'put down' theme runninng through them.

For my money the Leon Cupra is definately the best looking. The Golf (there door) comes second but there are too many about. Trailing in their wake the Ford 'cough' Focus and Vauxhall :shrug:,
Well the Ford is a Ford and the Vauxhall, well that's a Vauxhall :) Just my opinion....I've owned both marques in the dim and distant past ;)
well said mate i have the same feeling, there is something about both the old lcr and the new one that just makes them stand out in my eyes

and from reviews i have seen they just tend to be picky tbh
 

redcupratdi

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Oct 13, 2005
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If i had 10 grand spare i'd get one asap maybe a neice ex-demo full extras in a years time

looks great tunable to over 240bhp, great brakes, same chassis as golf.

under 20 grand is about right imo you wouldn't expect to pay 16-18 for the spec and quality/performance. also the Cupra name is getting stronger and stronger.
 

BEOWULF

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Mar 18, 2006
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while i have been saving my pennies as i am deffo going to get 1
wont be brand new thou :cry:
going to have to wait until a year or so after they arrive in march :cry: i like the look of it.
hopefully i would have saved a few pennies more then
as ya say about reviews they are always going to find something they don't like about it.
u can please some people some of the the time but u can not please all the people all of the time
and for ya money u pay u aint going to get much better.
 

DIESELDAVE

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Feb 2, 2005
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while i have been saving my pennies as i am deffo going to get 1
wont be brand new thou :cry:
going to have to wait until a year or so after they arrive in march :cry: i like the look of it.
hopefully i would have saved a few pennies more then
as ya say about reviews they are always going to find something they don't like about it.
u can please some people some of the the time but u can not please all the people all of the time
and for ya money u pay u aint going to get much better.

I will be in the same position, looking at getting one a year old...can anyone predict what the price will be for a 12mnth old one ?
 

GAmbrose

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I still think the "theme" of the reviews is about the same as when the LCR arrived on the scene. It was pitched against the Focus RS, Audi S3 and the like and it was very rarely voted as the outright winner. The thing is though, people like myself bought them and loved their all round ability. I am sure I will be doing the same with the new Cupra. If you put together all the positive comments in the various reviews, it does once again point towards a good all rounder. Not sure why journos are moaning that it doesn't feel that quick or powerful. How many hot front wheel drive cars have been ruined by torque steer? The VXR for one isn't so nice in that department. The Focus ST is very clever - listening to that glorious engine makes you forget that its styling is a little bit Halfords and the wheels remind me of probably the worst ones TSW made - the Venoms!! I work hard for my money and I would feel very smug if I got more for it with a Cupra than a Golf GTi. The couple of grand saved on getting a like for like spec could be well spent on subtle mods (Revo etc).
The only thing that I am a little puzzled by is the delay in arriving in the UK. If this results in a better car, then I will be happy. I have been trying to study the latest pictures (Autocar - the black one looks stunning) and I cannot tell if there is a LCR type splitter added. It is mentioned as a black chin spoiler in some PR material. Perhaps it was still on the back seat when the press drove the cars as per LCR!!!
Bring on a red one.

You are forgetting that when the Cupra R was originally launched in it's 210 BHP guise it was a significant £3,000 cheaper than the Focus RS and approx £5,000 cheaper than the S3...It was a performance bargain. It performed and handled better than the Golf GTi MKIV on which it was based and you got a lot more kit.

This new Cupra is more expensive than a Focus ST2 and not that far off a Golf GTi. It doesn't look mean like the old Cupra R looked (From the front) and the interior is pretty horrendous

Having sat in one at the British Motor Show and now reading the road-tests, I am glad I bought a 2nd hand Focus ST3. It might not look pretty, but it's loverly to drive.

Gary A
 
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