LCR v's VXR (Astra)

[J@mes]

forgot to mention that the focus ST that always trys racing me was broken down at the bottom of the M27 J7 slip road the other night i did have a chuckle a newer car than mine and he was sat on the M27 Hard shoulder barriers in the cold at midnight ha, just goes to show its not just vauxhalls

Fixed Or Repaired Daily

Found On Rubbish Dump...

 

[kennyrodgers84]

tahts a good one,just posted a new thread bout the old focus rs

 

[Ben CTR]

Or
Found On Roadside Daily..

 

[CupraJay]

Got to say that I havent read so much horseshit in ages. Sorry.

My Toledo is much the same power and Torque as Cuprajay's Leon. It did beat an Astra VXR on the 1/4 mile.

Look at the VXR's 6th run below;

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=64&RunDate=20060618

However there is absolutely no way my car would look near never mind walk away from any M3 except maybe the old square model (dunno which one that was but the old old (20 year old) one.

You clearly havent got a clue about cars or specs. The old one you refer to, is E30. If you have ever driven an e36 M3, then you will know about them. 276 bhp, less torque, and 1500kg's. And it doesnt start to come alive until 5000rpm. All that doesnt exactly light the world on fire. And since i had one for a while, id say im in a better position to comment on it than you.

Also, another factor that comes into it. What tuning options do you have. When does your power come in. What suspension, tyres ect are you running. it all makes a difference.

My cars power comes in at 3000rpm, has lightweight OZ wheels, bilstien coilovers, strut braces, uprated dogbone Mount, and Pirelli P-ZERO tyres. It handles its power fairly well. And puts it cleanly to the ground.

 

[J@mes]

...However, I cannot see any Leon Cupra in this list being faster than my Toledo over a 1/4 mile...

(not arguing here!)


that list does not have everyones time on it, just ppl who have asked to be put on it!


for instance, Strech79 (rob) got a 14.6 in his leon cupra which just had a remap and air filter! (so stage one) (i got a quicker 14.6 in his car that day at pod! )


u got a 15.4 right?!


i know still no where near m3 pace, BUT just thought id say m8!


edit: just looked at the list!...

26) CupraUK Leon Cupra Revo 206 216 14.684 @ 94.03 Santa Pod

so assuming u got 15.4 then u did look at the list very well!

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Is that the red VXR CupraJay? Might have to have look if thats the case

 

[acidstrato]

stop changing your bloody sig ya woman!

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Waiting for someone to pick up on it lol, back to the old faithfull

 

[acidstrato]

Still quicker than Carls

HAHAHA the only thing you got right in that sentance is my name!

 

[J@mes]

Not sure what you mean by this post, but I know that there are a lot of cars not listed. My point was that my car would be among the faster K03S Leon Cupra's and that being said, I know it would not keep with a 300bhp Astra VXR or an E36 M3 Evo. My car actually did 14.3 secs and was equally fast to GaryM's 240 odd bhp 270 odd ft/lbs Golf GTi MK4 with a list of add ons as long as your arm.

oh right lol



tbh i would have thought a 300bhp astra VXR would have been in the 13s with me?! must have been a crap driver!

 

[cuprabaz]

M3 wasn't trying. IMO

The VXR in that 1/4 link was standard (236bhp)and the driver was most pissed off with it's performance. I have to say that when on the open road they are pretty quick.

Just to add my 2p's worth on the old Focus RS. My friend has one around the 300bhp mark and it's awesome. I didn't used to be a fan of them but after having a go in that one i was very impressed.

 

[CupraJay]

Mate - My knowledge of cars and specs is good.I am just not familiar with the E numbers when referring to BMW's as I don't particularly have much interest in them. However a quick look here has helped me a little.

Now, talking from experience (my work colleague had an E36 M3 280bhp, an E36 M3,Evolution, a Z3M Coupe 321bhp and only recently sold her E46 M3), and having driven them all, I know there is no way a a car like yours would look near, certainly the E36 Evolution or the E46. Period.

Perhaps your car may keep with the 280bhp E36. Any expectations after that are misguided my friend. I spent some time looking for the 0-60, 1/4 mile time etc for this car and could not find a result which showed it to be slower than my car.

This brings me nicely to my next point. My modifications are irrelevant to this as I am not claiming my car can keep up with and beat M3 BMW's. However, I cannot see any Leon Cupra in this list being faster than my Toledo over a 1/4 mile.

In my opinion, you are trying to convince yourself that your car is faster than it is - especially when comparing it against more similar cars. BMW's aside for a moment, there is absolutely no way your car would keep with a 300bhp Astra VXR. This claim on its own is bullshit.

As BenCTR said above, if you do keep up with these cars, it is possible the drivers in these other cars cannot drive very well, or when you think you are trying them on, they are not aware of this fact.

Im intrigued as to why people dont read previous posts. As i already said, it was an E36 M3, 276 bhp. Numpty. I have already stated that two of my mates have m3 evo's..And they quite easily vanish.

As for the VXR, Its my best mates, and you can say bullshit all you like. Fact is, on more than one occasion, we have been nicely matched. I do know that astra did a 13.8 0-60 at Pod. Which is very very quick But we are not talking 1/4 mile..We are talking real world driving, on real roads.

We can pass this argument back and fourth til we both go blue in the face. But i think we have hi-jacked this thread for long enough.

 

[CupraJay]

I agree about the thread jacking but stand by my previous comments. I still seriously doubt a 240bhp Leon Cupra with K03s would be showing a 276bhp M3 the way home.

However, I would also acknowledge that there would most likely be little difference 0-60mph time between a 240 Cupra and 300bhp VXR as the front drive would make launches like this very difficult. 0-60 times are not really representative of real performance though, especially on high power front drive cars unless you are talking about diffs, slicks etc.

Surely you would have to agree that if you kept with the VXR to 60 that it would be pulling away from you after that point.

Yea i do agree...Coz to deny otherwise would be foolish. But also said, theres been times where its taken a very long time for him to go past on long'sh by-passes. Its hard to make sense of things sometimes.

 

[CupraJay]

I ride bikes to..Only a baby, due to me being 20..Iv got a gsxr 600. But its quick enough. Not many people tend to want to play. I think most of the fun with bikes though is finding a nice twisty road by yourself and just having a little fun.

 

[cuprabaz]

Check you boys out. 4 cylinders are for fannies.

 

[acidstrato]

 

[CupraJay]

Didnt realise your bike had a bigger penis than my bike.

 

[Ben CTR]

I do know that astra did a 13.8 0-60 at Pod. Which is very very quick.

Thought it would of been quicker than that.... lol

 

[Daz_gibbo]

1.8 Diesel?

 

[CupraJay]

Thought it would of been quicker than that.... lol

Mate, if its 1 thing VXR's are bad at, its putting power to the ground. Im sure with a better driver, it would been quicker.