Which Fuel??

[Jonny_Paul]

This might be me being a raish, but ive just got me LC today, but im not putting it on the road till the end of the month cos it isnt taxed, and im that tight i dont want to waste a months tax!

Anyway, looking through the handbook and it says 98ron fuel is the recommended fuel? do you have to use this or and you just use the 95-98ron fuel?

I understand it'll not have the same performance etc. But it makes quite a differnce on your pocket!!

 

[ElasticTangent]

On the inside of the fuel cap it says 95-98 RON.

 

[Jonny_Paul]

On the inside of the fuel cap it says 95-98 RON.

thanks young man! all ive done is bring it home and stand it on my drive! I was just checking cos i know on certain cars that are supposed to run on 98ron [imprezas for example] if you run them on anything less the engine light comes on!

 

[Mitchy]

No it doesn't, it says 98ron.

Why by a ''performance'' car and stick crap fuel in it? It doesn't make sense to me If you cant afford the fuel, why buy the car

Yes, it will run on 95ron fuel but it is not advised, you will lose performance and you can actually damage your engine after repeated use. It even says this in the users manual!

Fu*k blowing the engine to save a pound at the petrol pump

Do not put 95 ron in it through choice

 

[Mitchy]

I just double checked, and it definitely says 98 Ron/ 95 Roz

95 Roz is the german equivelant of 98 Ron fuel used here in UK.

I wonder how many ''numpties'' think it means you can safely use 95 ron

See chapter 3.4 in your handbook:

"If, in an emergency, the octane rating of the available petrol is lower than required by the engine, only drive with medium engine speeds and low engine loading. High engine loading with full throttle or high revs can cause engine damage. Fill tank with petrol of the correct octane rating as soon as possible.


That statement is good enough for me, straight out of the owners manual! If your running a non standard car, even more reason to do so!

 

[Myles]

Johnny Paul, how can you stand it? I am getting back home on 27 Jan and am seriously contemplating getting the tax then, forfeiting a month for 4 days. I cant wait to get behind the wheel again!! Also, I need to shell out £350 on parts and labour for an ARB and wishbone replacement!! P-Torque upgrade soon after methinks, I will treat myself.

 

[Jonny_Paul]

I just double checked, and it definitely says 98 Ron/ 95 Roz

95 Roz is the german equivelant of 98 Ron fuel used here in UK.

I wonder how many ''numpties'' think it means you can safely use 95 ron

See chapter 3.4 in your handbook:

"If, in an emergency, the octane rating of the available petrol is lower than required by the engine, only drive with medium engine speeds and low engine loading. High engine loading with full throttle or high revs can cause engine damage. Fill tank with petrol of the correct octane rating as soon as possible.


That statement is good enough for me, straight out of the owners manual! If your running a non standard car, even more reason to do so!

Well what i picked up from that thread that is its ok to use 95ron.......didnt like your attitude there. I must say.

What they recommend and what you can actually use are 2 different things.

I work for BMW and we recommend castrol 0-30 oil...but we actually put in shell 5-30.

 

[Ste]

Agree with Mitchy on this. I Strictly only use V-Power in my LC.

A member of this forum (sorry, can't remember who) tested v-power vs 95 ron fuels and said they got c.30 miles extra to a full tank on v-power. This pretty much offsets the extra cost of the fuel. No brainer IMO.

Don't think Mitchy was calling you a numpty btw, wouldn't take offence bud.

 

[Mitchy]

Well what i picked up from that thread that is its ok to use 95ron.......didnt like your attitude there. I must say.

What they recommend and what you can actually use are 2 different things.

I work for BMW and we recommend castrol 0-30 oil...but we actually put in shell 5-30.

If it says something in the owners manual, do you think, Jim/Pete and Bob on your local forum site telling you 95ron is okay is the same good information as to what it says in the owners manual

Just because there are cheapskates on here that cant afford the extra pound or so on their petrol bill have told you that they use 95 fuel, it doesn't mean that they are right does it? By reading the book it appears they're skating on thin ice and waiting for the inevitable to happen!

We are not talking about oil here, yes you can use different grades of oil 0w/5w/10w but its not on the same level as fuel! Its fuel that can make your engine run lean!

Running lean is playing with fire!

Its a no brainer really

 

[janowski1980]

yep, v- power for me, shell optimax is well worth shelling out for ( get it , ha ha) it cost me just shy of fifty quid to fill her up then if on motorway i see a return of 380-400 miles, and round town etc 300 just, so its worth the extra £4.50, which for me equates to around £200 extra a month. DOn risk putting crap in your car, you've probably spent quite a lot of beer tokens on it, so treat it like your pride and joy, dont cut corners mate.

 

[RobM]

Well what i picked up from that thread that is its ok to use 95ron.......didnt like your attitude there. I must say.

What they recommend and what you can actually use are 2 different things.

I work for BMW and we recommend castrol 0-30 oil...but we actually put in shell 5-30.

As you work for BMW I am sure you appreciate the importance of using the correct fluids in your car - that includes coolant, oil and petrol.

The LC and LCR are designed to be run on 98RON, therefore you really should use nothing but 98RON. Higher - ala Tesco 99RON or VPower - wont hurt and may improve things further. But whatever you do, stick to what Seat recommend. They recommend it for a reason.

Regardless of the tone of Mitchy's post, he is 100% correct in what he is saying. I appreciate this might not be what you wanted to hear, but he is right regardless. 98RON minimum unless in extreme emergencies where nothing else is available.

Also, if you fill a tank of 95RON and a tank of 98RON I bet you wont see more than a few pound difference. If that's really important to you, either slow down a bit to save fuel, or consider part-exchanging the LC for a Diesel.

 

[The MoffMeister]

Yeah honestly mate mitchy has a very good point turst us.. i've driven my mapped LC with 95 as i was stuck somewhere where thats all they had, drove car to next station say about 40 or so miles and you could tell the difference car stuttered a bit more and just felt shi*t to be honest. I always use tesco 99 ron which is good dont get me wrong but i tried V power and car seemed so much better, im not sure what ron it is but i like!

So for the sake of a few quid stick to the good stuff, if your engine goes it'll cost £3500 odd to get a new one and fitted etc, i know lol

 

[Jonny_Paul]

For starters i see your point and what your saying, but your tone and attitude i dont agree with, why call me a cheapskate? Do you know how man miles i do..do you know how i drive my car..do you know much extra amonth running on 98ron will cost me? No...Also the fact the Jim/Bob or wherever is saying they have usd 95ron in there car is actually useful information because there cars have seem to run ok on it, and dont have any problems. This is what we call proof!

I know we werent talking about oil, but i was just giving you an example of what manufacturers reccomend to what you can actually use.

I came on here asking for what people used, and to be called a cheapskate, and a numpty that certainly doesnt go down well with me.

Your attitude has disgusted me.

 

[The MoffMeister]

wouldn't worry paul prob nothing meant in it apart from tongue in cheek humour!!

 

[Mitchy]

I never called you a numpty nor did i directly call YOU a cheapskate (although your opening post reference car tax indicates that )

Why buy a performance petrol turbo car with 180bhp if your going to do mega miles? Why not buy a TD like everyone else, or a little 1.1 engined car?

Ive made my point, its your car, your money, do what you want but dont get offended when someone offers you advice.

I think you need a sense of humour transplant

 

[nibbles]

i have used 95 but got a bollocking from the revo man and said try and use it all the time but sometimes u carnt due to were u r and how low on fuel u r .ive had to do it and its fine on the odd occasion

 

[ElasticTangent]

Don't think Mitchy was calling you a numpty btw, wouldn't take offence bud.

Nah, he was calling ME a numpty

My bad for misreading what it said on the inside of the petrol cap. Since I got my LCR I've always used 98 or better but I ran my old LC on 95 for 2 years and had no problems at all. Yes it ran better on 98 but the engine didn't blow up on 'evil' 95.

 

[Jonny_Paul]

I never called you a numpty nor did i directly call YOU a cheapskate (although your opening post reference car tax indicates that )

Why buy a performance petrol turbo car with 180bhp if your going to do mega miles? Why not buy a TD like everyone else, or a little 1.1 engined car?

Ive made my point, its your car, your money, do what you want but dont get offended when someone offers you advice.

I think you need a sense of humour transplant

I would not refer to the LC as a performance car, 180bhp performance?? no.

I'll take your advice on board but its the way you've said it i disagree with.

I'm not going to discuss this with you any further, im bored with you.

 

[janowski1980]

hey jonny paul, chill mate, every one has different opinions, at the end of the day not only does it get dark but you make your own decission, people are only on here to let you know how they have found each petrol grade more useful to them. people only having bit of banter, all we are trying to say is that if you buy a performance car then expect to pay performance prices thats the be all and end all about it mate. Good luck

 

[The MoffMeister]

Not perforrmance?? well seat should re type their manuals then....