Warning mk2 owners!

[ibiza_streg]

I did it in my old 1.2 Punto(RIP) the back slid right out and at first I stained my seats then I was like 'Am I a rally driver?'! Spent the rest of the drive home trying to do it again! But I havent done it in my ibiza!

 

[sionowz]

you should get some 9j's on the rear....sticks to the road like glue!

 

[surcalation]

For me it will do it.

I have grippy front tyres, rubbish back ones
Front ARB
Coilovers
Strutbraces.

Can be done at 20-30 but I get too scared in case I curb my wheels. Save it for the track, plenty of run off

 

[Dave_R]

Well I have had my rear seats removed since xmas time and only once the rear stepped out on me bad (with spacers fitted) but it was wet and I wasn't going slow and it was a sharp around about.

I've had my mate behind me the other night and he did say that the rear looked like it was gonna go but in the car it felt like it was stuck to the road. Then the same time my mate who haven't been in my car for a while said it's handling much better????

 

[Roelích]

You got your seats back in now then Jib?

Told you it'd handle terribly with no weight on the back!

 

[Chrisdaman]

i've got no seats in the back, and it's twitchy under hard breaking, nut round corners its awesome

 

[looooce]

its all good fun, ive even managed "drifting" in my 1.0, quite scary at first but awesome when my friends in their much faster and more powerful cars told me how impressive it was!

i wouldnt take out my back seats... where would i go dogging!? haha, joke, id rather have my car as a car, not as a shell to be honest

streg, what the hell did you do to that punto!!!??

 

[Mckellar]

dogging - nice and respectable members on the mk2 section

 

[ibiza_streg]

streg, what the hell did you do to that punto!!!??

I let a girl drive it and lets just say the wall it hit came out better!

Though I can't complain as I got my ibiza as a result of it! I also nearly lost my licence but we're not going to talk about that......

 

[Jib]

what tyres do you have?
what suspension do you have?

2 vital factors as opposed to no back seats.

Suspension is totally standard and i have michelin pilots on the rear.

 

[hopkinsgm]

...i have michelin pilots on the rear...

What have you got on the front? I found Eagle F1's on front (GS-D2 variant) and Pilots on rear (SX-GT) to be a fairly lairy combination. It was only ever intended to be a short lived solution anyway until I got the Eagles scrubbed in. After a couple of damp roundabouts, I decided to swap a bit sooner than previously planned...

 

[Cupra Kid]

The cordies threatened to do it a couple of times although it never actually has (maybe because of the bigger heavier arse), as mentioned i have much more of an issue with understeer. My 2.0 8v ibiza however would be out of line at the first available opportunity.

 

[soamer]

only time the back stepped out on me was donington park going into the old hairpin at about 80 other than that it understeers on every other corner even went to the extreme of raiseing the rear 20mm to push more weight over the front and it still understeers
it must be a charater of the chassie

 

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Drifting, lol. It's a front wheel drive car, it does not drift. The rear end may slide out, it's not drifting though. Technical term for this technique is lift off oversteer. Have attempted this with mixed results in a mk3 Astra rally car.

If you are doing this on a road, you're driving somewhat recklessly. Basically it's about weight shift. Accelerate hard, release pedal quickly, turn, straighten wheel, power down. Essentially get the weight over the front. Inadvertently done this in my mk2 golf gti about 6 years ago. Led to its death!

Alternatively use the hand break. Drifting required RWD, a LSD or welded diff so you can power through the corner, not twitch out of it.

 

[edc]

only time the back stepped out on me was donington park going into the old hairpin at about 80 other than that it understeers on every other corner even went to the extreme of raiseing the rear 20mm to push more weight over the front and it still understeers
it must be a charater of the chassie

What have you done/changed re suspension / anti-rollbars?

 

[soamer]

almost any one can drift a front wheel drive a lot of rally cars are driven is in a drift style like james wozencroft its all down to the brake balance and car settup

 

[soamer]

What have you done/changed re suspension / anti-rollbars?

yes i have put lowered and stiffer supension on but set the rear higher as she understeered with the stanadard suspension on so she should now over steer

 

[edc]

If you want to bring the rear into play a bit more then a bolt-on rear arb is the way forward, or sideways.

 

[hopkinsgm]

...Drifting, lol. It's a front wheel drive car, it does not drift...

Utter pish. True enough, it won't drift in the "drifting as new fangled motorsport discipline from Japan" sense, but that's adoption of an existing term to mean a specific case of. Like "coilovers". I digress. Getting back to drifting, it's quite possible to push pretty much anything into a four wheel drift if you try hard enough. It's "simply" a question of slip angles and exceeding the mechanical grip provided by your tyres...

 

[soamer]

in years gone by some of the 2ltr kit cars for rallying where setup to "drift" when on gravel as the drift angle at the end of the corner is less and it is a more balanced line which gives
A, more grip for accelerating and B, a faster exit speed C, and is a very similar line to what the WRC cars used.

Some of the manufactures to use and exploit this where Renault, Ford, Seat, VW, Vauxhall.
But then all rally cars drift in the matter of the term