To DSG or not DSG that is the question

benskin07

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Apr 26, 2009
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I've owned both the 140 diesel and TFSI petrol Leon DSG models and have to agree with the pro-DSG comments on here.
Whilst its not perfect, I think the DSG box does a pretty good job of choosing and changing gears in 'D' or 'S' modes. I know die-hard manual lovers prefer more 'involvement' but IMO you can still get that with either both hands on the wheel with the paddles or tiptronic mode on the stick.
The one minor critisism I have with the DSG box on the Leon is that 'S' mode could change gears a bit sooner, as you tend to sound like too much of a racer, or maybe that's my age showing...!
The 'acid test' would be if that you were to do a poll of owners on here that have actually owned DSG cars rather than just driven them, I'm pretty sure most would stick with DSG in the future rather than go back to a manual (I know I would..;))


I'd agree with all the above after owning an S-tronic (dsg) A3 myself. Next car will 100% be another S-tronic A3. That is a bit annoying about S mode when it could change gears sooner, the noise is loud but does sound nice
 

PhilYerBoots

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Jan 1, 2008
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..That is a bit annoying about S mode when it could change gears sooner, the noise is loud but does sound nice

Definitely no complaints from me about the actual TFSI engine note when it is revving, especially the little blip the DSG makes on down-changes, nice touch...
Another bonus with the petrol DSG is Launch Control, mentioned elsewhere on the forum. I've yet to try it myself, but from what I've seen on YouTube (mostly Golf GTIs..) it looks entertaining...:p
 

Hugo Nebula

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Dec 7, 2007
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Manchester
I have a 2.0TDi w/ DSG & I wouldn't go back to a manual out of choice. I had a petrol FR w/ DSG before that, but some scrotes decided they liked it too.

I had never considered an automatic until I test drove the FR. I was struck by how quickly and easily it changed up or down, especially on fast overtakes. I remember writing in another forum that I was able to take advantage of overtaking opportunities by simply stamping my foot down, keeping both hands on the wheel and letting the gearbox worry about changing up and down. I liked it so much that I decided to trade in my 'old' car which was less than two years old.

After it was stolen, I had an 8-yo Astra (manual) as a runaround, but my left leg must have atrophied because a manual change felt so primitive. So I bought this diesel, partly for insurance reasons, and partly because I felt the FR had a big "Rob Me" sticker on the back.

However (and I know I may be drummed out of this forum for saying this), 140bhp is enough power for me. I can still overtake quickly when the need arises; slipping the lever into 'S' sees to that, and I can still cruise at 70+ (I'm not saying plus what) on the motorway.

Sure there are negatives. One has to learn to drive properly; there's no using engine braking through a bend, you have to slow down to the right speed with the brake. And it can get wrong-footed at roundabouts and give ways by being in too high a gear for a quick pull away and then dropping down too far. But once you've learned these foibles, its a great bit of kit, and a lot less likely to land you in trouble than a manual; you can't over-rev it, and you can't stall.

There have been some reports of jerky changes, and I should know, I have one. At low throttle when it's warm, it can feel like it's engaging the clutch too quickly, like a learner driver. I'm taking it into a dealer shortly, but research has suggested that it could be a faulty mechatronic unit. On your test drive make sure it's fully up to temperature (at least half an hour's driving) and test it in stop-start traffic. Take your foot of the brake without pressing the accelerator, and also drift to a stop with little or no brake; it should move up and down the gears smoothly.

Someday, all cars will have seamless changing gearboxes, and manuals will go the way of non-servo'ed brakes and wind-down windows.
 

Sabotage

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I own a 1.8 TSI w/ DSG7 And I had the same car with the manual gearbox for a couple of days.. And the DSG is better in any aspect.. Its faster.. Its more efficient (talking abour power loss and time loss)
The car feels stronger with the DSG than with the manual gearbox.
Its better for traffic jams.
And I'm one that love a Manual gearbox..
when I went to the dealership I wanted to buy the manual version. The sales person told me to try the DSG version and I said I dont want it.. But he said ok.. Just try it.
I went for a spin and when I went out of the car (the DSG one) I ordered my 1.8 TSI DSG babe..

Enjoy dude.