Phil, looking back over the thread it seems that the conversations have been pretty diverse, and have run off in all kinds of tangents. there ARE rules to be followed, even though you all know each other you must still follow these rules when on forum, if you want to take chit -chat elsewhere ( MSN etc) then fine, but for sales , idiotic comments like one posted within the last few minutes *which really isnt helping your cause* will be removed etc; and as warned , the thread in its entirety will be deleted if necessary.