South Wales Cupras Chat

[Daz_gibbo]

Phil, you added any additional timing with lemiwinks yet?

 

[PhilW]

I added 3 degrees and see 3's now and again after a couple of runs. I havent done a vag come TBA either so they could come down.

I havent got a laptop anymore to play and log, which i'm a bit gutted by as i wanted to tweak it for tomorrow.

What you running daz?

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Havent touched it. Think I even left it on T7 stupidly enough when i sold it. Wouldnt mind stealing someones SPS3 tbh to whack it up then use lemiwinks

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Phil let us know how you get . I had mine on the rollers on Wednesday and got 216 bhp and 256 lb ft torque, not exactly what i was hoping for!

I don't really get those figures as my logs on vag-com look pretty similar to yours. I'm seeing cf's at a max of 3 after advancing timing by 3 degree's with lemmiwinks and a max MAF reading of 183g/s.

Either im a victim of the age old 'dyno lottery' or somethings a miss lol

Hope your results fair better than mine though.

 

[Daz_gibbo]

What rollers?

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Aldon Automotive, revo dealers by me Daz.

 

[Stuart 528]

what time u going to westec, and how much is a run down there? not far from me so might pop down

 

[PhilW]

Theres no spaces to run tomorrow at the RR day sorry. But i'll be down there from 9.30.

 

[davidol]

space up for sale if anyones interested, mates golf has dumped the contents of its gearbox, see me on the day for details

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Dave you down there tomorrow? Just got in, might be up for a visit is people are going down. Maybe a small meet?

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Long day then. Come on Phil we're waiting..!

 

[PhilW]

211bhp and 256ft/lbs.

Boost was flucuating its tits off for some reason, no idea why as i dont have a laptop, but it never does that on the road. I dusted a megane F1 on the way down which later RR'd @ 235bhp, so mine cant be ~25bhp down from that.

I slackened off the wastegate a little for a second lot of runs at the end of the day and it done it again but not as bad but made a lowly 205/251.

I'm stumped really. n75? ****ed wastegate? strange load on the rollers?

All my logs have been mint as you've probably seen on my other thread and the way it was running grant reckons it would have made 230 easy if it carried on and didnt drop off on boost.

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Ah that old chesnut. Me x 2 and Martyn had that strange dip ~4k iirc which certainly does not happen on the road.
Doubt you have got a problem Phil if it doesnt happen on the road.Rollers are the common element.

 

[PhilW]

This was weird tho, you could hear it loads backing on and off.

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Sounds like it with those figures. We still got 220+ both times. But if it doesnt do it on the road...Shame though

 

[-pseudonymous-]

Join the club Phil mate, gutted for ya! I'm completely baffled by my figures too. Car feels rapid on the road and my logs back that up. Mid 180's maf readings, minimum timing pull and healthy boost readings but still shameful rolling road figures. Don't know which are more accurate really, just find it hard to believe i'm only touching 220 bhp.

How did others compare today?

 

[PhilW]

Most other cars were spot on. We run 48 cars altogether.

20vt's were down apart from a LCR with a decat and cat back exhaust which pulled 229. Not remapped.

 

[PhilW]

Heres the graphs. I reckon if it didnt surge it would be 230 ish.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/philwarren11/BHP11-NOV-2007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/philwarren11/Torque11-NOV-2007.jpg

 

[Daz_gibbo]

Graph is looking fine until turbo starts to spool @~3k then it's all over the shop.

 

[PhilW]

Yeah thats what grant said, was lookin awesome coming on boost and if the curve carried it it would have been around 230.

Never had this happen at all, and i would notice it it was that bad.