Remove Rear Side Panel?

dm222

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How's your sound settings on the head unit, all flat or not? Majority of all speaker failures are caused by wrong sound settings and abusing the volume.

Tõnu

I was using Bass -4, fade -4 could that be harmfull? everything else is at 0
 
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dm222

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Nice :)
Well I don't have a rear door.
can you upload the speakers pic from the rear ?

The pic is there, the front doors are the same, the difference is that you don't have that little triangle, and you have two bolts at the bottom instead of one, and to release the leveler twice.
 
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MantaOwner

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I was using Bass -4, fade -4 could that be harmfull? everything else is at 0

Everything with a '-' is ok. Just be safe with the volume knob trying to compensate something you've set with a '-' on the headunit.
Ruining an OEM speaker is not a big thing really as these are quite cheap and low quality usually. Changing a bad one may need some harder work though as is the case with Ibiza's front doors for example.

Tõnu
 
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dm222

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Everything with a '-' is ok.

Tõnu

When I was using fade my volume was 15-16, now it's like 11/12.... so I think it was that...

It is my first car, so I am making tons of mistakes by ignorance.
 
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MantaOwner

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I can't read the label on that pic, do you have one with good angle ?

Why do you even bother to do something about your rear speakers anyway? Install good component speakers in the front and you're done. If needed, add an amp.

You already know how the rear speaker is installed on a Cupra:

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If you just change the speaker the result will be poor (better than OEM but still poor), the reason is that big 2-part opening in the rear panel that let's the sound waves coming from the front of the speaker to combine with the sound waves coming from the backside of the speaker, that ruins the output/sound quite well. You need to seal that big opening to make it airtight which needs some work, then you'll get a good result.
But why invest time and money into sound coming from the rear part of the car when most of the time you have people sitting only in the front, including the driver of course? If you have a good front stage in a car you can even completely forget about using rear speakers ie turn them off. By a good front stage I mean not the cheapest speakers, a good installation and an amp to power them.

Tõnu
 
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dm222

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I can't read the label on that pic, do you have one with good angle ?

If you don't have rear doors, the speaker is different from mine.

I think it should be 5P0035411A, search at google for this part number and there are tons of pics, for 5 door cars I think it is 6J0035411A
 
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dm222

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I fitted two used columns on the rear and everything sounds nice now.
 

slunat

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Well I did this tutorial everything in detail, because the details make all the difference to a good job :D Any question just ask.

1 - Remove this little panel there, just push it out in your direction... If the little clip stays there after removing, remove it with a pliers.
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2 - Remove this. Personaly I found it easy to start at the first picture location and work all around it, once you know all the points at the top are disconected push it in your direction to release the two clips on the last pic. Disconnect the connector
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3 - Remove this 3 screws.

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4 - Remove the center trim, personally I find easy to start at the location of the first picture, and be carefull wich angle you remove it, do it on your direction, because you don't want to break those on the second pic.

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5 - Unscrew those two a bit but don't remove them.

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6 - Push the glass up and secure them with tape

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7 - Fully remove this 3 bolts (only black bolts).

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8 - Push the card up and in your direction to release it.
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9 - Now the card is relased but the window leveler is still inside the door. Push the window leveler up and release it at the bottom, be carefull not to scratch the rubber things against the door while pushing up, just push it inside with one finger (1pic). If you don't do this you could damage the rubber and it starts to make noises, metl again metal (last picture)

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10 - Push the card down to release the leveler above, unclip the door lock connector so you don't force the wires and your are done, then do what you want to do.

Installing.

1 - Put the door lock connector back, make sure all the wires are on the correct place, if you didn't force anything they should be. Make sure the door handle cable it's on the place.

2 - Put this screw back just a little so it can be secured.

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3 - Insert the window leveler above first, again make sure the cable doesn't rub against the door...

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4 - Push the window leveler up and insert it inside the door at the bottom. Make sure the bolt lays at it's place.

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5 - Do all the bolts in the reverse order and you are done.
Sorry for reviving this again. Is your car a 5 door by any chance? I'm wanting to take out my rear door cards to see if theres any speaker wiring there for rear speakers as I have just bought the rear speakers. Do you have a backup of these pictures somewhere as I cant seem to see them.

Thanks
 

dm222

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Sorry for reviving this again. Is your car a 5 door by any chance? I'm wanting to take out my rear door cards to see if theres any speaker wiring there for rear speakers as I have just bought the rear speakers. Do you have a backup of these pictures somewhere as I cant seem to see them.

Thanks

Yes, I think I do.
I will check it this night.
 

dm222

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1 - Remove this little panel there, just push it out in your direction... If the little clip stays there after removing, remove it with a pliers.

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2 - Remove this. Personaly I found it easy to start at the first picture location and work all around it, once you know all the points at the top are disconected push it in your direction to release the two clips on the last pic. Disconnect the connector

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3 - Remove this 3 screws.

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4 - Remove the center trim, personally I find easy to start at the location of the first picture, and be carefull wich angle you remove it, do it on your direction, because you don't want to break those on the second pic.

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5 - Unscrew those two a bit but don't remove them.

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6 - Push the glass up and secure them with tape

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7 - Fully remove this 3 bolts (only black bolts).

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8 - Push the card up and in your direction to release it.

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9 - Now the card is relased but the window leveler is still inside the door. Push the window leveler up and release it at the bottom, be carefull not to scratch the rubber things against the door while pushing up, just push it inside with one finger (1pic). If you don't do this you could damage the rubber and it starts to make noises, metl again metal (last picture)

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10 - Push the card down to release the leveler above, unclip the door lock connector so you don't force the wires and your are done, then do what you want to do.

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dm222

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Installing.

1 - Put the door lock connector back, make sure all the wires are on the correct place, if you didn't force anything they should be. Make sure the door handle cable it's on the place.

2 - Put this screw back just a little so it can be secured.

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3 - Insert the window leveler above first, again make sure the cable doesn't rub against the door...

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4 - Push the window leveler up and insert it inside the door at the bottom. Make sure the bolt lays at it's place.

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5 - Do all the bolts in the reverse order and you are done.
 
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slunat

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1 - Remove this little panel there, just push it out in your direction... If the little clip stays there after removing, remove it with a pliers.

image.jpg


2 - Remove this. Personaly I found it easy to start at the first picture location and work all around it, once you know all the points at the top are disconected push it in your direction to release the two clips on the last pic. Disconnect the connector

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3 - Remove this 3 screws.

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4 - Remove the center trim, personally I find easy to start at the location of the first picture, and be carefull wich angle you remove it, do it on your direction, because you don't want to break those on the second pic.

image.jpg


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5 - Unscrew those two a bit but don't remove them.

image.jpg



6 - Push the glass up and secure them with tape

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7 - Fully remove this 3 bolts (only black bolts).

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8 - Push the card up and in your direction to release it.

image.jpg



9 - Now the card is relased but the window leveler is still inside the door. Push the window leveler up and release it at the bottom, be carefull not to scratch the rubber things against the door while pushing up, just push it inside with one finger (1pic). If you don't do this you could damage the rubber and it starts to make noises, metl again metal (last picture)

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IMG_20160607_185915.jpg



10 - Push the card down to release the leveler above, unclip the door lock connector so you don't force the wires and your are done, then do what you want to do.

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That's perfect, thanks so much mate


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