Remap pd140

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Those type of maps are usually just restricted on power to achieve better mpg. Your better with a good map and driving sensibly - that's the most important part. If you drive like a nob you will see no improvement but if you drive very liberally then you'll see the gains. Mine was full performance, not interested in economy yet it's using less fuel now than it ever was in standard form.

Regarding your turbo - unless it's a cheap piece of shite it should be fine providing you use a decent remapping company as some will just hammer it with boost to make it feel faster and that will ultimately cause premature turbo failure.
 

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Ok, cheers. I always drive sensibly as i am an advanced driver so to me everything is about stability, smoothness and finesse. I just didnt want the power to be beyond the limit of the turbo. Although I believe they are slightly different my thought process was to keep it to FR figures so I know it would be safe. I.e around 170bhp.

Off topic slightly but What should my turbo run psi wise cos I tried the torque app and it showed a maximum of 22psi on a dual carriageway run.

What would be the benefits of a rolling road map compared to just a flash. What is the difference in price?
 

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FR figures are irrelevant as it's a different turbo setup.

Proper software that's had decent R&D is the way to go, it's what most big brand tuners produce.

A map on the rollers has to be carefully monitored by the vehicle owner as what some "tuners" will tell you is "it's a custom RR remap" when in fact they just do a before and after run and zero adjustments are actually made and there absolutely nothing custom about it at all.
 

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Oh ok. Sounds like everything else with cars, need to find someone that is trustworthy and honest.
 

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So is there any local members that can suggest a good company to consider.

There's TDITuning in Chelmsford, they offer tuning boxes or custom remaps, prices seem ok, they guarantee the boxes for 3 years, and they will remove any remap for free for any reason. I've not used them myself, but am considering it. Was hoping to get opinions on boxes on here as that's cheapest and easiest.
£125 for a box, or £290 for a remap. According to the web-site you take a test drive afterwards with the technician to make sure your happy with result!
 

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I'm assuming when you say you had a jf automotive map, you didnt actually have any probs but removed it anyway, however you had a friend that did? what were the probs?

Also did you just have it flashed or was it put on the rolling road as they do have one.

I thought tuning boxes were a big no no in the tuning world as they only trick the ecu into thinking something else is happening makong it deliver more fuel or similar.


No nothing went wrong, it was a car park tune a long time back, said they only had a RR at head office, but when I got it remapped again it was commented how badly it'd been done, as if it was set up wrong?

Also my friends car as mentioned was pushed passed it's limits and things started to break.

I've always herd tunning boxes to be a no no, but I've always stuck to a quality one with guaranties, warranties & knowledgable staff & it's always paid off, I've had 4/5 different cars with them, 2 of my mates use them now (not including my dad's 3.5d x6) & they all love them.

I personally cannot trust anyone so I'm hard to please, I would only go to someone who only does diesels or herd very good things about regarding diesels.


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Another thing to consider regarding a remap is car insurance. It's not all doom and gloom though, I actually got a good deal on Liverpool Victoria car insurance when I declared that the car was modified, was only around £20 more per year. Swinton wanted an extra £320 when I quoted a remap.
 

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PD140 turbos aren't great although your fresh turbo should take a lot more stick than an older one.

I would be looking out for a minimal increase in turbo pressure, as the majority of your performance increase will come from additional fuelling. Couple of psi at the most.

Smooth delivery of boost & fuel to be kind to the clutch & flywheel would be good too - unless you dont mind replacing them :)
 

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i also recorded the highest mpg i've ever managed on a run a couple of weeks ago at 73.1! before i'd only ever managed around 55.

In the last year ive only ever had between 36-39 max. After new turbo I had 43 for a couple of days, but after my car wouldnt start the other day I've only been getting a max of 41

This is the main reason I want a remap.
 
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A poor tuner will either whack a percentage on every map that auto detect finds and hope the ecu adapts to the change or they'll whack loads of boost and not adjust timing or fuelling to suit. Hence a lot of smoky maps that feel quick but tail off dramatically after the peak torque is achieved.
 

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So enquired about remap at jfa. quoted £300 for one car or £250 each if book 2 in together. Apparently this is just the standard map and not on dyno which is £70, but I assume thats a run and not to customise the map.

Communciation was through a friend of the owner and not the company, but they were of the opinion that if my car is otherwise standard that the map would suffice and give me the results I want, and custom mapping would only really be required/beneficial if the car has some decent mods like fuel pump , injectors etc.

I asked who produces the maps and was told that jfa used to use Viezu's maps but have now been trained by Viezu to produce their own, and is also doing development work for Oakley design.

My mate had his done at jfa and said they managed to get it smoother and more powerful than a ecutek map that he already had.

what are your thoughts on the maps and cost?
 
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Why?.

Just for the rest record I do trust the person that is friends with the owner and the car he had tuned is a Mazda 3 mps. He is very particular about it and bought it new so he must trust the work to have it done in the first place.

This is there site by the way. http://www.jfautomotive.co.uk
 
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Viezu formerly chipped uk one of the worst remapping companies in the country.

I'd avoid anything to do with them personally.
 
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I've seen a lot of posts saying that however an equal amount saying that viezu actually bought out chipped UK and are a completely different company. Also any map supplied by jfa will be produced by the owner of jfa not viezu. I think he just trained there.
 
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