Realistically, whats it worth? 2007 Leon Cupra TFSi with 20,000 miles

[DOLBY]

tbh i dont think they look that great these days, im old enough to remember when they first came out, and they looked great then...not now...very dated and not as aggressive as todays hot hatches.

with regards to the chav chariot remarks, i have never seen a true ford modifiyer do a good modified car, they always seem to f**k them right up. and with something as legendary as the RS badge every modification should be discreet. the whole purpose being to make the car better...but every ford ive seen has got the same old chav exhaust and shite music blaring out.

as has been said old technology, old car...why drive around in a L reg heap when you have an 07 reg decent car?...dont make sense.....

dream car?...so lambo doesnt come into the question?...

 

[DOLBY]

give me a sierra cossie any day....

 

[danieltm]

Traffic light grand prix would go in the Cossies favour vs a MK2 Leon Cupra - trust me.

Its not so much about performance though. For sure its an old car now, and with it the niggles, problems faults, rust and other issues, but it is a rare modern classic and with a bit of work done, it could show the Cupra a clean pair of heels.

Not sure I would go the whole hog with modications, but they sound mental with the right bits on it. Interesting info there about MA Developments. Werent GGR and BBR good with Cossies too?

Oh yes, and with regard to colour, it would be Imperial Blue (first choice) or possibly Petrol Blue. However the right car would get my money regardless of colour.

Not sure how many on here might agree with me, but personally, I still think the Cossie looks awesome, especially in Imperial Blue

Nicer than my Cupra anyway

Give me 6 months mate and i will have your leon. I think it looks lovely

 

[SpursMadDave]

Aye - stealthy...

Not really stealthy.... just like something is missing....

Black alloys = missing hubcaps....

 

[Al]

Heh heh. I see your train of thought now

Does your theory cover black dashboards too?

 

[wild willy]

Sometimes DJ we don't realise what we have got until we lose it. I really think you will regret this move.
Stage 2+ surely next move.
I think your black gloss rims look nice. If not happy with them just change thier colour.

 

[Chan_P1_TDi_FR]

What the MK2 cupra and FR's needed was for the wheel arches to be a bit beefier than the standard leons. A lot a performance versions of other hatchs have wider arches and it does look better and more aggressive. The Cossie looks stunning compared to a standard escort because it was about it's outrageous looks and it sure was wider than normal.

 

[Revon]

Wow, did not see that one coming Go for the Cossie mate if it is what you really want. Did any of them come without the huge spoiler? I am sure I had seen one and IMO it looked better.

 

[Al]

Wow, did not see that one coming Go for the Cossie mate if it is what you really want. Did any of them come without the huge spoiler? I am sure I had seen one and IMO it looked better.

Aye the deletion of the spoiler was a no cost option latterly, but its not a Cossie without the spoiler.

I have been looking at various models available, and it looks like I will need to add about £5k to get a reasonable one over and above what I am likely to get for the Cupra.

Sometimes DJ we don't realise what we have got until we lose it. I really think you will regret this move.
Stage 2+ surely next move.
I think your black gloss rims look nice. If not happy with them just change thier colour.

What if power was not part of the equation though mate? Lets just say I think the performance is adequate as it is......

Oh, by the way, I like the black wheels and so do 99% of others - my comments were tongue in cheek to Spursmadave as he does not like black wheels by the look of it (which is fine), but he the painted the centre part of his dash black . Its maybe just my sense of humour, but I find it a tad funny that those comments came from him

Anyway, the way I see it, I have lost £300 a month on depreciation alone since I got the Cupra and thats before I put on tax, tyres, brakes, get it serviced, insured etc etc.

For what its worth, I bought the Cupra as a company car as it fulfilled the company requirements of being less than 5 years old and having 5 doors. Luckily I have a fuel card for it also so I only pay 40% of the fuel that goes in the car for personal use.

However my car allowance after tax and NI does not cover even the depreciation on the Cupra, and it seems that one of the few things faster than the cars performance is the amount of value it is shedding.

By taking a company car like a Mondeo TDCi or similar I worked out that I would be quite a bit better off than I am currently bearing in mind I run a 1.6 Leon as a runabout as well as the Cupra. The moneys saved would easily cover a weekend toy car. However if I dont do it soon, the money I would need to add to the proceeds of the Cupra will get even bigger.

The deal clincher will be if HR say they can swap my allowance for a company car. Should find out next week after I get back from Amsterdam on business

The good thing about a Cossie is that it wont lose money much, if at all. Also, even if it needs work done, I would be in a position to justify the £300 a month I am currently losing on the Cupra and if it never needed work done, it could go in to the make the Cossie faster fund

 

[Poverty]

Not really stealthy.... just like something is missing....

Black alloys = missing hubcaps....

my mum has said that about my k1 actually lol

 

[Willie]

I can toatally see where your coming from on this.
When you have a bit of money and time its good to realise boyhood dreams.
If theyn did a Lancia Delta Integral HF Turbo in RHD then I would have had one by now.
The shape, style and how it goes is awesome but same as the Cossie (and older) there are lots of faster cars out there but its not all about being fast (for a start)
The benifit of the Cossie is upgrade part will be way cheaper then for Seats as there more widely used. I'd love a spin in the Cossie when you get it, as I'm sure you will.

It's got to be done, its the right time, and the neighbour we the XR4i will be well jealous. He might give you a shot of the RS4

 

[phil3012]

Aye the deletion of the spoiler was a no cost option latterly, but its not a Cossie without the spoiler.

From what I can remember reading the motoring press at the time, there was a change to the Escort Cossie part way through its life.

The massive spoiler became a normal size one (although the large one may have been an option still) and the size of the Turbo was reduced.

 

[RickyD1975]

I would say go for it. I've always been a fan of the Sierra Cosworth and I may sometime in the future own my dream car.

I think the time has now passed and you've had your fun with the Cupra and it's time to move on.

You'll have the best of both worlds because you will have a Mondeo for the daily duties and the Cosworth/Bike for the weekends.

Why keep the Cupra when it's loosing money like it is. Get a company car and then you'll have no worries on depreciation on that front.

All you will need is funding to keep the Cossy ship shape and additional pennies if you decide to tune it. IMO I would keep it as standard as possible to hold the value of it.

Good Luck.......

 

[phil3012]

By the way it's more than £300 a month that a Cupra loses.

I was quoted by a dealer when I was doing a deal to get shot of mine that a Cupra lost £500 a month.

I think this was an over estimate but mine lost around £430 a month.

I would say £350 to £400 a month is nearer the mark.

 

[RickyD1975]

By the way it's more than £300 a month that a Cupra loses.

I was quoted by a dealer when I was doing a deal to get shot of mine that a Cupra lost £500 a month.

I think this was an over estimate but mine lost around £430 a month.

I would say £350 to £400 a month is nearer the mark.

Agreed, this will always be the problem with newish cars.

Figures from the What Car Deprication Index are as follows:-

Seat Leon Hatchback 2.0 TFSI Cupra 5dr:-

Year 0 £19,370
Year 1 £11,303 = £672.25 a month
Year 2 £9,852 = £120.92 a month
Year 3 £8,045 = £150.58 a month
Year 4 £6,497 = £129.00 a month

The first two years works out at £396.58 a month. The 1st year looks the worst, although a 1-yr old Cupra will fetch a lot more than the quoted price.

In summary people who buy 2 - 3 year old cars will not loose as much as say a new to 1 year old car.

I think this is the way forward and I doubt I will buy a newish car again, even though it's only my 2nd car I've owned which has been less than 1 year old.

I always bought cars which were 3 - 4 years old and didn't loose as much money over the cause of owernship.

The only reason I bought my last two years which were less than 1 year old was for the warranty and the assurance that I wouldn't have to pay out on unknown repair or maintenance bills. At the time I was doing around 20,000 miles a year and now I'm only doing around 7,000 miles a year.

How things change. I suppose in the current climate I'm one of the lucky one's. I couldnt afford to run a Cupra if I was doing 20,000 miles a year.

Cheers

RickyD

 

[Bretty]

Escort Cossies are lovely and imo a modern classic, but, buy one and its a never ending money pit i would put my own money into something a bit more modern day, you dont fancy an Evo or M3?

 

[phil3012]

Agreed, this will always be the problem with newish cars.

Figures from the What Car Deprication Index are as follows:-

Seat Leon Hatchback 2.0 TFSI Cupra 5dr:-

Year 0 £19,370
Year 1 £11,303 = £672.25 a month
Year 2 £9,852 = £120.92 a month
Year 3 £8,045 = £150.58 a month
Year 4 £6,497 = £129.00 a month

The first two years works out at £396.58 a month. The 1st year looks the worst, although a 1-yr old Cupra will fetch a lot more than the quoted price.

In summary people who buy 2 - 3 year old cars will not loose as much as say a new to 1 year old car.

I think this is the way forward and I doubt I will buy a newish car again, even though it's only my 2nd car I've owned which has been less than 1 year old.

I always bought cars which were 3 - 4 years old and didn't loose as much money over the cause of owernship.

The only reason I bought my last two years which were less than 1 year old was for the warranty and the assurance that I wouldn't have to pay out on unknown repair or maintenance bills. At the time I was doing around 20,000 miles a year and now I'm only doing around 7,000 miles a year.

How things change. I suppose in the current climate I'm one of the lucky one's. I couldnt afford to run a Cupra if I was doing 20,000 miles a year.

Cheers

RickyD

Not seen that index but looks pretty good.

What car always was pesimistic over used prices. I ended up getting part ex somewhere between What Car Lowest and Parkers. Glass's quoted something silly and unrealistic.

I kept my 04 Celica for 3 years before getting the Cupra and that lost loads during the first 2 years but very little between years 2 and 3. I was always getting part ex prices for it after it was a year old.

The issue with buying year old cars is many are ex-hire which would put me off. Things like a Cupra don't fall into that category so much, but the more mainstream models do.

I reckon the Cupra won't make the 3 year used values quotes in magazines though in todays climate. I can many being near 50% after only 2 years. Some are not far off now.

 

[Al]

Scary to see values drop like that. I guess it is pretty relevant to anyone who has or is planning to buiy a Cupra.

 

[SpursMadDave]

Heh heh. I see your train of thought now

Does your theory cover black dashboards too?

Now thats just rude!

 

[Pummy]

If you have some financial gain to make then do it. Choice of car is your own choice and I wish you all the hapiness for it. I reckon you would be better off doing the frugal bit for as long as possible and get something really swift when you have a sufficient pot to run it. If I were in your position however, I would plump for something in the Audi RS range, I perceive them to be a lot more practical, safer and reliable than the equivalent high powered fords.