Philips Vs. Osram

[Amr]

Hey,
I know that many of Cupra owners had already modified thier blubs to a Xenon discharge or more powerful bulbs. But i still need your support and opinion on which is better, the OSRAM cool Blue, Philips Blue Vision or Philips Vision plus??? (H7, H3)right?
Anyway am not happy with the leon headlamps anyway coz i feel they are too narrow and does not spread if compared to my Previous Pug 206.
I read some reviews but i still need concrete experience.

http://www.powerbulbs.com/products/product.php?prodid=pbv&type=H7

http://osram.com/products/automotive/cool.html

Any thoughts..?

 

[jezyg]

I fitted the Phillips bluevision and was very impressed. They gave much better road illumination. They give off a very white light so do actually look like Xenon lights.

Cost £50 for the 2 H7 and H1 bulbs plus the sidelights which are free with the H7's

 

[prc]

LONG STORY

Amr,

If you don't wnat to go with a HID conversion you have a few other options (IMO obviously).

1- get some philips rally bulbs or similar. These are higher wattage bulbs. Usually the H7 are 80W and the H1 are 100W. They give you much more light than any of the blue* bulbs hands down.
The Problems:
You need to work over the headlight wiring (either buy a pre made harness or get someone to do it (it is quite simple to do)). This
is because more W = more current draw on the system wiring.
The 2nd problem is that the bulbs do not last as ling as normal 55w bulbs (normal 55W bulbs are usually rated for 1000hrs; 100W bulbs are usually rated at 300 hrs). This is due to the higher heat they create. 3rd problem is that after 3 or more years they tend to yellow the headlight reflector (this again is due to the heat). 4th it's ilegal in most or all countries to run 100W bulbs (you can get away with it here, but only if the headlights are correctly aimed).

2- get the philips vision+ or the osram silver. I've used both, they are equivalent in performance.

3- get the philips blue vision or osram cool blue. Not sure if they give you better illumination, but you can definitely distinguish road signs/hazards better. Since these bulbs have a bluish film covering the glass bulb they actually give you slightly less output on the road.

I never checked the voltage across the bulb (with normal lighting), but remember that most bulbs are rated 55W @12V. If you have less than 12V you have less than 55W.
That's why in cars with bad wiring schemes you'll get alot better output with the same bulb just by adding a harness. If you have 13.8V on the bulb you will definitely have more than the 55W. You'll also shorten bulb life (probably 100-200 hours in 1000 hours).

 

[Niall]

i´ve trioed blue vision and vision plus. And all i can say is that the light from blue vision is better. The lines are lit up a lot better and the vision plus bulbs didn´t last more than one month. Got replacements but the hassle of it.

You could try for real HID´s but there a bit pricey about 900 euro´s for a kit. Supposedly they are identical to the factory one´s. I´ve got HID´s on my 2003 Ibiza and the only word is fab. Unbelievable how much extra light you get.

Real HID kits

 

[prc]

there are only conversion kits for the leon/toledo, no factory stuff.

 

[djawol]

Originally posted by jezyg
Cost £50 for the 2 H7 and H1 bulbs plus the sidelights which are free with the H7's

I've just looked at PowerBulbs, there's no mention of the free sidelights with the H7's anymore unless I missed it.


Andy

 

[jezyg]

Should say on the website, anyway the sidelight bulbs come in the same package as the two H7's. I only ordered some last week for my wifes Compact and they came with the side lights FOC.

 

[Amr]

get the philips blue vision or osram cool blue. Not sure if they give you better illumination, but you can definitely distinguish road signs/hazards better. Since these bulbs have a bluish film covering the glass bulb they actually give you slightly less output on the road

PRC,
A real professional reply from an electric nerd..
Well... I am more attracted to this opinion at mean time. First, i dont have much options, Ca$h, Ca$h is pulling me back. Called Philips dealer in Egypt and seems that they were dead or never heared about something called Car bulbs.. Anyhow, secondly i found the OSRAM cool blue at a very very cheap and nice price almost £10 for the H7 Pair and less than £3.99 for the H3:dance1:
What would convience me is the HID conversion but this will come in the zillion phase future plan.

umm.. i am not sure about the H7 i think they were the default 55w@12v. same for the H3, so am not worried about getting fewer light. And i did try to fit a 100W for the fog lights and Baaaaamm:bomb: the fuse was gone and the glass cover was damn smoky.. almost burning, so i wont get in the hazard of more watts on the same 12v.

 

[Amr]

the vision plus bulbs didn´t last more than one month

Niall
well..
This is really disappointing coz i thought these lamps are going to be much better than other unknown korean and chinese makes.

A mate of mine has a beeza and he fitted this kind of Eaglite Xenon headlamphttp://www.midnightmoose.com/h7.htm
and every couple of month he need a new set as the right bulb always used to go off. for the H3 fogs he was changing them every now and then.. both were burnt.

This kind of Eaglite and SACA are some cheap imports we got in here..
Have u got similar Shyet???

 

[Nick]

I use philips vision plus along with xenon blue side light light bulbs and Osram Diadem indicators.
Certainly when I was looking for the best bulbs about a year ago the philips vision plus came out tops, out of the legal bulbs.

 

[Niall]

My dad works in lighting for philips. Part of his job is developing lighting for cars standard and xenon. On his last car the vision plus used to blow every month. He said it was because they were running such a high temp and the blue vision's run at a slighty lower temp. So we just kept the receipt and went back every time they blew. Golf IV's are renowned for blowing bulbs. They must run a high voltage.

He has got a new E-Class Mercedes with Bi-Xenon lighting and the first thing he said to me was i'm glad i listend to you about those Xenon light's it turns night into day. You see so much more. Just the price ticket is very high and his is a company car so it just was within his budget. He would choose it again but they are just so expensive.

 

[prc]

yep the vision+ run a bit hotter. I think they also come with a tighter wound filament (hense the +50%).

 

[djawol]

Originally posted by jezyg
Should say on the website, anyway the sidelight bulbs come in the same package as the two H7's. I only ordered some last week for my wifes Compact and they came with the side lights FOC.

Doh, I went in straight to the link and there was no mention. If you look here then it's still on.

I'll put my order in now.


Andy

 

[Amr]

OSRAM Cool Bluez

Well guys,
I got the Osram Halogen Cool blue for my fogs.
Honestly i expected much more than that. I admit they are much more brighter and more white than the original ones, but they doesnt provide me that coolish blue of 10% as was written on'em.

Any how may be the h7 would make the image clearer???

 

[prc]

Re: OSRAM Cool Bluez

Originally posted by Amr
Well guys,
I got the Osram Halogen Cool blue for my fogs.
Honestly i expected much more than that. I admit they are much more brighter and more white than the original ones, but they doesnt provide me that coolish blue of 10% as was written on'em.

Any how may be the h7 would make the image clearer???

The fog's suck period no matter what you put in them. You'll notice a bit more difference with the H7's but not +50% either.

 

[Amr]

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The fog's suck period no matter what you put in them. You'll notice a bit more difference with the H7's but not +50% either

well prc,
I know that the fog itself is limited by the area of the crystal. after fitting the H7 may be i would notice a bit of difference from the halogen light instead of the deafualt yellowish light. Btw, the very small bulb, the one associated with the dash light, is H4?? and the other one providing the high light is H1? right?

 

[Amr]

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The fog's suck period no matter what you put in them. You'll notice a bit more difference with the H7's but not +50% either

well prc,
I know that the fog itself is limited by the area of the crystal. after fitting the H7 may be i would notice a bit of difference from the halogen light instead of the deafualt yellowish light. Btw, the very small bulb, the one associated with the dash light, is H4?? and the other one providing the high light is H1? right?
H1 needs to be replaced to match.. ?

 

[prc]

Originally posted by Amr
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well prc,
I know that the fog itself is limited by the area of the crystal. after fitting the H7 may be i would notice a bit of difference from the halogen light instead of the deafualt yellowish light. Btw, the very small bulb, the one associated with the dash light, is H4?? and the other one providing the high light is H1? right?
H1 needs to be replaced to match.. ?

I really don't know. Don't worry for fog yellow light is better in realy fog. . By the very small bulb I think you mean the city light bulb (on the bottom part of the high beams)? I am not sure but I think this bulb is a W5W???
The high beams are H1 for sure.

From experience:
The +50% is true or pretty close to true for H4 bulbs but not for H7 bulbs.

 

[Amr]

Indicators?

Yuuuuuuhuuuuuu,
I really wanna know what u guys out there in England or others in Europe do when doing some illegal street racing.

I mean in Egypt here we have some 'Codes' when u rasise some motoring with another car. I mean we do in here we do whatever we want as long as no body is hurt or killed .
some clarification:
If u cross a mate either through doing some diving moves between other cars (crowded a bit in Cairo), or u do pass him (power differnce), u consequently hit the right indicator flasher associated with a left one then both togther.

This means " ha ha Loser"

Any similar actions?:devil:

 

[Sir Nodrick]

right, sorry guys for replying on a REALLY old thread, but my missus headlight bulbs have gone kaput! They were some of those cheap ebay 100w special bulbs.... lasted 2 weeks...

soooo, i have decided to replace all the front end bulbs.

Due to the legal restrictions, i have opted for 55w headlight bulbs, a set of 55w phillips x-treme headlight bulbs. They are 55w but due to the design of the bulb, they are supposed to be +80% light... hope they are good....

And for the main beam, because they aren't (or at least they shouldn't be) included in the 55w legal bulb limit wattage, i've opted for philips rally 100w main beam bulbs. The law says that you can fit any amount of additional lighting to the front of your car as long as you can revert back to 55w when someone is coming head on with ya, so i'm saying "well, main beam is ony on when your on the road on your own"... etc... soooo 100w will be fitted into the main beam.
i've looked at PIAA, osram, phillips, Ring bulbs but they all draw less power than 100w that the philips draws, and however they try and bull up the "well it only draws 55w, but it produces 65,000,000watts of output" Bull poo, i think i'll still purchase the bulb that draws the most power.