Performance of leon cupra 03

[woza]

Does anyone know the official figures for a leon cupra 03 model with 180 hp. I have read somewhere that it has the same engine as a golf gti and an audi tt?

is this true, please let me know guys

Woza.

 

[RikH]

same engine as 180 version of the TT
not sure on golf's and which engines are the same

official figure is something like 179bhp iirc

 

[The MoffMeister]

but does vary from car to car mate my rolling road read 180.9 and another standard one read 189 so depends on car really!

And yes same engine as golf turbos to!

 

[woza]

but does vary from car to car mate my rolling road read 180.9 and another standard one read 189 so depends on car really!

And yes same engine as golf turbos to!

and performance wise what are we talking in terms of 0-60 and top speed. are they could on fuel economy also?

Woza.

 

[The MoffMeister]

if you drive it like you stole say goodbye to good mpg the best i got was 40mpg but thats driving everywhere 60-70 say and had it down to about 9-10 for proper thrash!!

0-60 the R is quicker but getting to 60ft say they are a bit slower at getting the power down as they are more powerful which i found out at santa pod mind you that was a 270 bhp version but basically it will leave the cupra somewhat quickly i think again theres a couple of seconds or so plus they have a higher top end!

 

[CupraJay]

Not sure on the oficial figures..and to be honest..You cant really trust them anyway.

Depends what you have driven previously though, it might seem quick or slow.

But its only a revo remap away from being quicker than a standard cupra R. Depends on the year ect and your plans...but a cupra can be a more economical buy than a cupra R.

 

[CupraUK]

And yes same engine as golf turbos to!

Same engine but not same power, only the Golf Gti Aniversary is 180, rest are 150.

TT comes in 150, 180 and 225 varieties (+ the big V6 but we are not talking about that)

The investment that VAG made in the engine must have paid back time after time I would imagine, A3, S3, A4, TT, Octavia VRS, Ibiza, Golf, Passat, Toledo, Leon, Beatle

 

[CupraUK]

and performance wise what are we talking in terms of 0-60 and top speed. are they could on fuel economy also?

Woza.

I think official 0-60 is around 7.2, revo remap will get that down to the low 6s (+ standard will pull healthily to the 142mph on the limiter in 6th whenever you are on a private test track)

 

[GAmbrose]

I think official 0-60 is around 7.2, revo remap will get that down to the low 6s (+ standard will pull healthily to the 142mph on the limiter in 6th whenever you are on a private test track)

7.9 for the Cupra, 7.2 for the 210 Cupra R and 6.9 for the 225 Cupra R.

I think.

Gary A

 

[Cupramax]

Original factory figure for the Cupra was 7.7

 

[Copra]

my mates 206 gti book time is 7.9, but my leon spanks it, so it must be low 7s (we are talking real figures, not "book" estimates!)

 

[Mitchy]

7.9 for the Cupra, 7.2 for the 210 Cupra R and 6.9 for the 225 Cupra R.

I think.

Gary A

All are 0-62mph not 0-60mph

6.9 for 210. 6.6 for 225 and 7.7 for cupra

 

[Timthebrief]

Regardless of the "official figures" and at the risk of upsetting the LCR crowd , (and to nick a Rolls Royce advert) I'd say that the bog standard Cupra is more than adequate for the busy roads of Hampshire.

IMHO those of you who regularly have road space to use any extra power are very lucky or living in the Highlands of Jockland

 

[schnipps]

Also i must say without trying to offend standard Cupra's are not the prettiest of cars, they look exactly the same as the base models with slightly uprated alloys and a twinpipe. I can not fathom why they have black bump strips its an utter crime. I would never get a cupra, it would be an R or an FR petrol or nothing if i was goign petrol route.

 

[alock]

Also i must say without trying to offend standard Cupra's are not the prettiest of cars, they look exactly the same as the base models with slightly uprated alloys and a twinpipe. I can not fathom why they have black bump strips its an utter crime. I would never get a cupra, it would be an R or an FR petrol or nothing if i was goign petrol route.

The other point of view is that my 02 Cupra can be parked anywhere and doesn't attract any unwanted attention. A friend who bought an LCR was approached by two young lads less than a week after buying it and invited to a street race He was never happy leaving it parked in town again. It's not like we're in a dodgy area either.

 

[CupraJay]

Also i must say without trying to offend standard Cupra's are not the prettiest of cars, they look exactly the same as the base models with slightly uprated alloys and a twinpipe. I can not fathom why they have black bump strips its an utter crime. I would never get a cupra, it would be an R or an FR petrol or nothing if i was goign petrol route.

Beleive the FR and the cupra to be the same thing...Just changed names at different years, i think when the car became, MY03.

After that, the cupra no longer had black bump-strips or anything else and from different aspects, looks better than the R.

The R is in reality over-priced, espeicaly when all you get extra for the money, is new bumpers, which in my opinion, the back bumper looks terrible, Bigger brakes..nice, but, with new pads and discs, the cupra brakes are **** hot. And R logo's on the seats...WOW.

I know you get other little bits, bigger back brakes, up-rated wheel bearings ect..but theres not a whole lot of difference. That k-04 turbo doesnt make up for it either, as if some-1 is after serious power, that would be changed also.

I love R's...But not convicned its worth it.

With the extra cost of the car, and insruance, i dont see the point. With a remap and intercooler, the Cupra Flies..and if you want serious power, then you'd have to up-grade the turbo no matter what model. So a cupra is a more econimcal route.

No doubt, a load of critisism is coming my way, but in not bothered in the slightest, it is my opinion only, and not that of any-1 else.

 

[Spanky]

I'm sorry, but a remapped Cupra is at best equal to a standard R, performance wise. Plus the Cupra has poor brakes, poor intercoolers, poor suspension and doesn't look half as good in comparison to an R. There is ALOT of difference between the Cupra and R, and you make your choice.

Spend the same on a R as you mentioned about the Cupra and there is NO comparison.

But who cares, if you dont like R's, buy the Cupra, and vice versa, its all down to personal taste at the end of the day, but the facts are there, relating to the differences.

 

[CupraJay]

I'm sorry, but a remapped Cupra is at best equal to a standard R, performance wise. Plus the Cupra has poor brakes, poor intercoolers, poor suspension and doesn't look half as good in comparison to an R. There is ALOT of difference between the Cupra and R, and you make your choice.

Spend the same on a R as you mentioned about the Cupra and there is NO comparison.

But who cares, if you dont like R's, buy the Cupra, and vice versa, its all down to personal taste at the end of the day, but the facts are there, relating to the differences.

As mentioned, with discs and pads on a cupra..the brakes are very good. Still better than most cars, especialy of the same size and power.

And the R intercoolers are just as poor as the cupra's...only difference being theres 1 extra. I have never driven a cupra with standard suepnsion, so i couldnt tell the difference. And as mentioned, i beleive the only better bit about the R styling, is the front bumper, which is beautful..but in my opinion, the rear bumper is terrible.

Doing the same performance mods to the cupra and the R...at an average, say the cupra to have 240 bhp...and the R to have 270 bhp. Thats not a whole lot of difference, and for the magority of people who tune they're cars for serious performance, neither is enough, so the deviding factor, a bigger turbo, would be being changed anyway...putting them on equal grounds.

 

[Copra]

Also i must say without trying to offend standard Cupra's are not the prettiest of cars, they look exactly the same as the base models with slightly uprated alloys and a twinpipe. I can not fathom why they have black bump strips its an utter crime. I would never get a cupra, it would be an R or an FR petrol or nothing if i was goign petrol route.

eerrrm, agreed, but for a reasonable amount you can add myo3 bumpers, side skirts and rubstrips;
and before you say it, no, i couldnt have bought a my03 cupra, FR, Or Cupra R with the money ive spent on the car + the extras (still a few £k cheaper)

befoe :

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h130/meeerrrk/b28a4f3d.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h130/meeerrrk/06f909f7.jpg

after:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h130/meeerrrk/RIMG0005.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h130/meeerrrk/RIMG0009.jpg

 

[Tantrum]

Copra, how much of a mission is it fitting the LCR bumpers? did you do it yourself, or did you get a bodyshop to chuck them on. Wicked colour btw