very true indeed!! insurance prices are indeed high, so what's the point paying so much money if you're sitting on a guaranteed void!
PD100 - Upgraded to 200 BHP?
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very true indeed!! insurance prices are indeed high, so what's the point paying so much money if you're sitting on a guaranteed void!
it's a 1.9TDi, so if 200 bhp is easily acheivable through the cupra, it'll be doable with the pd100...but it'll be alot of work and alot of money
Anything is achievable. But if you want a 200hp car, don't buy a 100hp car.
I've almost doubled the power in my Ibiza, but it's cost me probably the best part of 20k.
Now I never set out to do it and I havent spent it in one go, but I can guarantee that if I wanted a car with the power I have, it'd have been a lot cheaper to just buy one.
Intercooler and piping - 800
Turbo - 750
Air intake - 100
Injectors (pd100 injectors wont do 200bhp) - 150 second hand
Exhaust - 500
That's 2300 not including any labour or the brakes, suspension, maintenance mods that you would need to support it.
You'd also need to count in a clutch at 500minimum and if your doing the clutch then you would want an LSD at 1k.
It's doable. But certainly not cheap.
Turbo - 750
Air intake - 100
Injectors (pd100 injectors wont do 200bhp) - 150 second hand
Exhaust - 500
That's 2300 not including any labour or the brakes, suspension, maintenance mods that you would need to support it.
You'd also need to count in a clutch at 500minimum and if your doing the clutch then you would want an LSD at 1k.
It's doable. But certainly not cheap.
This whole thread is pointless.
You are saying that you want to buy a sportrider to then double the bhp on. Even if you got a good deal on the sportrider, the extra work will surely cancel out the increased cost of the cupra over the sportrider. Even if you took it to 160 bhp, the cupra's insurance would be lower as a standard car than a modified sportrider.
This is of course unless you are intending not to declare the mods (as you have insinuated), in which case starting with a sportrider and turning into a tuned cupra will keep your insurance costs down and still maximise power. People have said 'why don't you just cancel your insurance' - well this is easily answered, because the OP doesn't want hassle from the police ANPR camera's - he is much less likely to have an issue with undeclared mods than no insurance at all, until the point if/when push comes to shove and he has an accident/is pulled etc.
You complain about fuel and insurance prices, but its people like you who drive prices up - someone has to pay for the fuel that people like you steal, and someone has to pay for accidents caused by uninsured drivers - and its us, the honest motorists.
Personally, I don't see why any of you are posting constructive replies to someone who has pretty much admitted that he will not declare these mods. I wonder how you will feel when you have to post up an 'I've been hit by an uninsured driver' thread. I don't see why we should condone this behaviour by offering help and support.
I'd prefer to see this thread go to the scrapyard. I just hope the OP's current insurance company see it first.
Rant: over.
You are saying that you want to buy a sportrider to then double the bhp on. Even if you got a good deal on the sportrider, the extra work will surely cancel out the increased cost of the cupra over the sportrider. Even if you took it to 160 bhp, the cupra's insurance would be lower as a standard car than a modified sportrider.
This is of course unless you are intending not to declare the mods (as you have insinuated), in which case starting with a sportrider and turning into a tuned cupra will keep your insurance costs down and still maximise power. People have said 'why don't you just cancel your insurance' - well this is easily answered, because the OP doesn't want hassle from the police ANPR camera's - he is much less likely to have an issue with undeclared mods than no insurance at all, until the point if/when push comes to shove and he has an accident/is pulled etc.
You complain about fuel and insurance prices, but its people like you who drive prices up - someone has to pay for the fuel that people like you steal, and someone has to pay for accidents caused by uninsured drivers - and its us, the honest motorists.
Personally, I don't see why any of you are posting constructive replies to someone who has pretty much admitted that he will not declare these mods. I wonder how you will feel when you have to post up an 'I've been hit by an uninsured driver' thread. I don't see why we should condone this behaviour by offering help and support.
I'd prefer to see this thread go to the scrapyard. I just hope the OP's current insurance company see it first.
Rant: over.
The deep down truth of the matter is it probably won't become a reality & like you've said, for the cost I'm probably better off getting a higher BHP model from the start.
It would be interesting to know how insurance companies classify modified cars. I.e. What insurance group for what Modifications.
I have heard PD100 injectors are Capable upto higher BHP, Just replacing them with PD130 or PD150 ones just cost extra for not a massive gain.
How many people here have declared Mapping their Car or Modifications?
It would be interesting to know how insurance companies classify modified cars. I.e. What insurance group for what Modifications.
I have heard PD100 injectors are Capable upto higher BHP, Just replacing them with PD130 or PD150 ones just cost extra for not a massive gain.
How many people here have declared Mapping their Car or Modifications?
and to clarify you dont need a cat on a diesel as they dont do emissions tests on diesels, just smoke tests.
get an fr or cupra and go from there. Or even better get a petrol fr or cupra and go from there
get an fr or cupra and go from there. Or even better get a petrol fr or cupra and go from there
I'd be doing the same.. Although the PD100- 200+BHP is very do-able (one of my mates had a PD110 golf and is now running nearly 230BHP) it is very costly, and he had problems with sourcing the injectors and getting them fitted. No garage wanted to fit them for him.
I'm sure that he had to change the cylinder head also because the cams are different to the PD100 although its not a definite.
My Ibiza started its life as a PD130 but is now running 265BHP and 375ftlbs of torque
Paulie..
How come on an MOT they don't do an emissions test on Diesels?
Also just to inform some of the more raging members I won't becoming an irresponsible road user you will be pleased to know with Undeclared Modifications.
But I might be considering a PD100 with a Declared Remap for lower insurance reasons than a Cupra of FR.
Also just to inform some of the more raging members I won't becoming an irresponsible road user you will be pleased to know with Undeclared Modifications.
But I might be considering a PD100 with a Declared Remap for lower insurance reasons than a Cupra of FR.
fr's are dirt cheap on insurance anyway though, i had one at 19 and was a bargain to insure. and not sure why they dont matey but all you need to know is that you can legally decat a diesel with no bother
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Why they don't have a CO2 emissions test, I don't know, they are however tested for NOx particles which is basically a smoke test. So as long as it doesn't smoke like an old train a decatted diesel will pass an MOT.
you guys must live some seriously hrash places , policed used to stop me everyday in old scooby , declared totally standard on insurance , they often check the car over for everything including drugs and weapons cause they must of taught i was a drug dealer, anyway they didn't care i had a bigger turbo on it fmic 3" straight through exhaust , and when my ex girlfriend crash it paid out no problem.
in terms of 200bhp from pd100 , its possible with bigger injector nozzles and better intercooler , no doubt the internals can take that power
in terms of 200bhp from pd100 , its possible with bigger injector nozzles and better intercooler , no doubt the internals can take that power
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