PD Oil ignorance

[muddyboots]

you know they are oil burners as the lads at work remind me

That's nothing to do with engine oil. It's because diesel fuel is referred to as "heavy oil" on your registration document

 

[muddyboots]

I've always been of the opinion that regular oil changes are the best thing you can do for engine longevity - and mine has had fresh 505.01 every 5k miles (apart from my gap in ownership where it was done at normal intervals by the dealer).

So lets hope it has done some good !

 

[oldman]

i get mine done every 10k (normal service time) which with my driving is about every 7to8months and am trusting dealership (yes i still use it, no skoda or audi or specialist near me) to use correct oil so surely if it all goes to pot they are as liable as anyone, in fact more so for using incorrect oil when they should know better

 

[PhilOfCas]

i get mine done every 10k (normal service time) which with my driving is about every 7to8months and am trusting dealership (yes i still use it, no skoda or audi or specialist near me) to use correct oil so surely if it all goes to pot they are as liable as anyone, in fact more so for using incorrect oil when they should know better

if it goes to pot as you put it, you're on your own are you not, i.e. out of warranty ?

 

[oldman]

but that's the point, is it all my fault?

I take it to a known and trusted servicing agent for Seat vehicles using a PD engine, is LC Charles in Crewe, a Seat Dealership.
You would hope they know how to service a car they put together and sell?!?! so if they put the wrong oil in it is there fault, or am i supposed to ask what they use and watch as it is added to my engine to check they do use correct oil and probably take pictures as prove.

 

[allh2k]

Would it depend on if these come under wear and tear? i guess they will not last forever ?

also you cannot account for the in between oil changes or top up oil!.

 

[PhilOfCas]

what i'm trying to say is, yes, they are liable within warranty but once out of warranty i think you'd be hard pressed to get any recompense for what is essentially wear and tear, i.e. it's your word against theirs, how do they know you've not abused it ?, run it low on oil, thrashed it to death, yes, topped up with the wrong oil etc etc and you can bet your life on it that they would never own up to using non PD oil.

 

[oldman]

i understood what you were saying and yes i would argue with them over it, (just ask the guys i work with what i'm like).
seems a we win as we're the garage and your scr3w3d being a punter - nice world we live in sometimes- because we would never do anything wrong sir.....

 

[PhilOfCas]

me ?.........worried ?, worried ?????.........me !?! (garlic........bread, garlic bread, garlic.............bread ?) .

It's quite simple in't it, put (non thinned down ) PD oil in soonish, then top up with PD oil as an when, throw away non PD oil in garage and lie back and think of England.

Honestly the car hasn't changed noise since i got it at 5k, has been same, year in year out, noisy when cold and once warmed through settles down reasonably well. Less noisy in summer than in winter on start up from cold.

I've read lots (Quentin Willson being a notable early critic) about this engine being a 'bag of spanners', but very effective with it, much like i've found it, scour the internet (like i did before buying it) and you'll find many reports of it sounding noisy, it's been said of Audi's and VW's too with this engine.

It's took me quite a while to come to terms with it being noisy (when cold/slower speeds/low gears) but that's just how it is, i now think it's 'characterful' .

I'm not going to lose sleep whether i've damaged 'me cams/lobes' whatever, no-ones 100 % convinced me that PD engines get knacked just by using 505 00 (nevermind just using it to top up) anyhow. I've got more precious things to worry about than some bit's of metal in an engine.
(Christ, War and Peace).

Signing off, Mr NotnoWorriedofCas

Fresh 505 01 bobbed in last night

If only to confirm above post, here follows an extract from Richard Hammond's motoring column in yesterdays Daily Mirror:

Review of VW's new Tiguan.

Headline:
"VW's soft-roader makes a big noise.. about towing."

"I thought noisy and clattery diesels were a thing of the past but VW appears to be hanging on to one for nostalgia's sake in the Tiguan Escape 2.0TDI. Even when it's nice and warm, this engine is far too noisy.
It's a letdown because, otherwise, the Tiguan is a very relaxing car to drive."
..apart from the noisy engine, which sounds even worse when you start changing changing gears with the Tiptronic six-speed automatic gearbox, the Tiguan drives very well."

Look's like if you want better engine refinement look elsewhere.

I believe it's a fair trade off though 'cause the performance/economy/handling/looks/space etc etc more than compensate and make for a very good overall package.