Oil...What to use in your TDI

[Craig Senior]

Had mine serviced last week at the dealers.

Supplied my own oil, Millers XFE-PD, 5 litres for £17.68 + VAT.

 

[Moonlight]

A quick question I have is: I have topped up my Cupra TDI with a castrol 506.01 approved oil as stated in the handbook but obviously dont know what the original oil in the car is. Is it ok to do this potentialy mix oil brands? (I though it would be ok as its just a small ammount).

 

[ChrisUK]

I thought you shouldnt use 506.01 !!

I was under the impression that 505.01 was the way to go ??

 

[Moonlight]

Remember that SEAT also insist that the Ibiza Cupra TDI MUST have 506.01 in it. Very similar engines, same service intervals...you make up your own mind

I thought you shouldnt use 506.01 !!

See above?

 

[oilman]

It will be fine to top up with in small amounts. Just keep it to the occasional top up though.

Cheers

Simon.

 

[Moonlight]

It will be fine to top up with in small amounts. Just keep it to the occasional top up though.

Cheers

Simon.

Ok Thanks Simon.

 

[markmck]

from my understanding


506.1 PD synthetic
505.1 non PD syn

 

[Craig Senior]

from my understanding


506.1 PD synthetic
505.1 non PD syn

Not according to post No. 1 of this thread or the bottle of oil in my boot.

 

[prc]

from my understanding


506.1 PD synthetic
505.1 non PD syn

505.00 is the non PD (but could be synthetic or not)
505.01 is PD (non variable servicing) all I've seen are synthetic based with some mineral parts. NOT SEMI-SYNTHETIC which is mineral based with some synthetic molecules.
506.01 is PD synthetic for variable servicing.

 

[oilman]

Just to save any confusion.

Volkswagen Group Oil Specifications and their Applications

VW 500.00
This is an “old” oil specification and is applicable to engines built before model year 2000 (up to August 1999)
Viscosity ratings: SAE 5w-40, 10w-40 or 20w-40
This oil can be used in all petrol and some diesel engines, apart from those referred to under other specifications.

VW 501.01
This is another “old” oil specification with exactly the same application as
VW 500.00.
Viscosity ratings: SAE 10w-40, 15w-40 or 20w-40

VW 502.00
This oil can only be used in petrol engines and is recommended for those which are subject to arduous conditions. It must not be used for any engines with variable service intervals or any which are referred to under other specifications.
Viscosity ratings: SAE 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40

VW 503.00
This is a relatively new oil specification for petrol engines with variable service intervals. It includes the AUDI S4, but not the RS4, or the TT and S3 with outputs of more than 180bhp.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30

VW 503.01
A new oil specification specifically for the RS4, and the TT and S3 with outputs of more than 180bhp, Passat W8 and Phaeton W12.
Viscosity rating: 0w-30

VW 505.00
For all diesel engines prior to model year 2000 (August 1999)
Viscosity rating: 0w-40, 5w-40 or 10w-40

VW 505.01
For all diesel engines with unit injectors (Pumpe-Duse or PD) without variable service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 5w-40

VW 506.00
For all diesel engines except those with unit injectors, with variable service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30

VW 506.01
For all diesel engines, including those with unit injectors, with variable service intervals.
Viscosity rating: SAE 0w-30

Cheers

Simon.

 

[Blandit]

all these numbers have me completly confused

i have a 53 1.9 110 TDI toledo...

what oil do i use?
i checked the manual and that donlt make sense either

 

[oilman]

VAG cars can get a littl confusing when it comes to oil as they do every thing by codes.

Have another look in the hand book and it will give you a list of codes, it will look a little like VW505.01

Let me know what the code is and I will forward on to you some options.

Cheers

Guy.

 

[Blandit]

it says:

Diesel Engine:
denomination Specification Comments
A - Synthetic oil VW 505 01 dated after 1-97
B - mineral oil VW 505 00 dated after 1-97
a/b - Multi-grade oil ACEA B2 or B3 or even API CD/CF dated after 1-97

on A - synthetic oil, it says:
"Diesel engines that have fuel injection based on a fuel injector pump should ony use oil specification 505 01. avoid the use of any other oil type then VW505 01 for this engine.

so whats mine, as a 53 110BHP Diesel Toledo

 

[markmck]

i'm using a taxaco havoline in my Tdi 110. Its a 505 00 syntehtic

http://www.havoline.com/products/na/motoroil_smo_tech.html

 

[oilman]

it says:

Diesel Engine:
denomination Specification Comments
A - Synthetic oil VW 505 01 dated after 1-97
B - mineral oil VW 505 00 dated after 1-97
a/b - Multi-grade oil ACEA B2 or B3 or even API CD/CF dated after 1-97

on A - synthetic oil, it says:
"Diesel engines that have fuel injection based on a fuel injector pump should ony use oil specification 505 01. avoid the use of any other oil type then VW505 01 for this engine.

so whats mine, as a 53 110BHP Diesel Toledo

If you have a PD Diesel engine then you can only use PD specific oil which meets the VW505.01 spec, if you do not have the PD engine then you can use any oil thatr meets the 505.00 spec, and there are plenty to choose from.

Plenty to choose from on my site here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/lubricants.htm

Drop me a mail for a price list.

Cheers

Simon.

 

[Blandit]

thanks markmck...that helps.

Oilman, problem was that i didnt know if i was PD no not.........oops

Still thanks, whats your reccomentation for the 505.00

 

[oilman]

On the 505.00 code you can go 10w-40 semi synthetic or 5w-40 full synthetic.

The full synthetics are the quality option, I would look at the Motul 8100 excess 5w-40 as this is a good quality syntheitc.

Cheers

Simon.

 

[markmck]

On the 505.00 code you can go 10w-40 semi synthetic or 5w-40 full synthetic.

The full synthetics are the quality option, I would look at the Motul 8100 excess 5w-40 as this is a good quality syntheitc.

Cheers

Simon.

any prices??

 

[oilman]

Sure,

Drop me a mail to [email protected] and I will forward on to you a full price list.

Cheers

Simon.

 

[Paul TDI]

Found this 505.01 list on the Honest John site, just cut and pasted it. It supposedly came from a VW source.

AD Parts AD SDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Addinol Addinol Light MV 0546 PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Agip Agip 7004 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Aral Aral Tronic 431 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Avia Avia Turbo CFE PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Bucher AG Motorex Profile V-XL SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Castrol Castrol 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Castrol Castrol GTD 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Cepsa Cepsa Star TDI synt SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Chevron Havoline 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Conqord ROLOIL 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
DEA DEA Ultec Diesel SYN SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
DEA DEA Viscobil ST SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Delek Israel Delkol IDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Denicol Motor Oils Denicol Pro Syn 4 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Elf Elf Excellium DID SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Esso Esso 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Eurolub (Hunold) Eurolub Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
FL Italia Pulsar Progress SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
FL Italia Selenia Performer SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Fuchs Motorenoel G052 167 02 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Labo Syntha High Tech Synthese SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Motorenoel G 052 167 02 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL-F SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Ginouves York 742 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Hunold Hunold Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Igol Igol Process 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Kuttenkeuler Sorotec Pdi SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Kuwait Petroleum Q8 Motoroil 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Meguin megol Motorenoel Super Leichtlauf Technology SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Millers Oils Millers XFE-PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Mobil Mobil Syst S Special V SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Mobil Mobil TD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Molyslide Molyslide Formula L2 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Motul Motul 6100 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Oest Mineralölwerk Oest Leichtlauföl 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
PAZ Champion Oil 50501 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Pentosin Pentosynth 5W-40 TS* SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Petrogal Galp Formula 505 Extra SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol VPD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Repsol Repsol Elite 505.01 TDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Rowe Rowe Synth PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Shell Shell 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Slovnaft Madit 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Sonol Sonol Synt 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Statoil Statoil Superway SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Sun Oil Sunoco Ultra semi synth. SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Suomen Petrooli OY Teboil Diamond SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
SWD swd Primus Synth. SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Tamoil Sint Future Extra SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
TD Lubrifiants AVIA TDi 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Teboil Teboil Diamond Diesel SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Total Total Quartz 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Unil Opal Unil Opal Opaljet 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Diesel Turbo motot oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline High Performance Diesel motor oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Valvoline Diesel Turbo Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Valvoline High Performance Diesel Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Vaps Vapsoil PD 540 Spezial SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Veedol Veedol 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Westfalen AG Westfalen Megatron SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Wolf Wolf Masterlube Synflow PI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Würth Würth Triathlon Special PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Yacco Yacco Spéciale SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Yacco Yacco VX 505 Diesel SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Zeller+Gmelin Divinol Syntholight 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501

Variable Service 506.01

Aral Aral SuperTronic LongLife II SAE 0W-30 50300/50600/50601
BP BP Visco 7000 LongLife II SAE 0W-30 50300/50600/50601
Castrol Castrol SLX LongLife II SAE 0W-30 50300/50600/50601
Veedol Veedol Syntron LongLife II SAE 0W-30 50300/50600/50601