OBD11 For the Tarraco

[Deleted member 103408]

@Tony Tonic you were asking about OBD11 for the Tarraco.

Firstly the current OBD11 Dongle only supports Android.

The do have a new dongle that ships in August (for those who pre ordered it) but until later in the year this will only work on apps not full coding.

If you buy the Pro Licence and obd11 Dongle this enables you to follow other peoples coding to make changes to your car as well as apps, afraid i have a Leon so don't have a lot of information on your car.

Check out this thread for HBA http://obdeleven.proboards.com/thread/6345/high-beam-assist

If you download OBD11 And enter your vin number when you setup your account (this will cost you nothing) you will be shown all the apps that currently exist for your car, that does not mean they will work on your model as this is dependent on what hardware you have installed etc.

If you advise the guys on this forum what you are after hopefully somebody can confirm if you can use OBD11 to do this.

 

[Tony Tonic]

@Tony Tonic you were asking about OBD11 for the Tarraco.

Firstly the current OBD11 Dongle only supports Android.

The do have a new dongle that ships in August (for those who pre ordered it) but until later in the year this will only work on apps not full coding.

If you buy the Pro Licence and obd11 Dongle this enables you to follow other peoples coding to make changes to your car as well as apps, afraid i have a Leon so don't have a lot of information on your car.

Check out this thread for HBA http://obdeleven.proboards.com/thread/6345/high-beam-assist

If you download OBD11 And enter your vin number when you setup your account (this will cost you nothing) you will be shown all the apps that currently exist for your car, that does not mean they will work on your model as this is dependent on what hardware you have installed etc.

If you advise the guys on this forum what you are after hopefully somebody can confirm if you can use OBD11 to do this.

Thanks for the info. I have the iOS app downloaded and no apps are listed for the car VIN in my garage.
Probably best to wait a bit then. Or can I code it myself from the info in the thread? Or best wait for the new dongle for iOS ?

 

[Deleted member 103408]

As with carista as its not mainstream yet they have not got round to building apps. With VCDS and OBD11 you can code the solution if you have the righthardware and sensors plus coding. Afraid i dont know your car so cant confirm if the above coding works on all cars. Hopefully somebody else on here will be able to confirm.

re ios at this stage you would not be able to do anything as it only works on apps till later in the year. i personally would wait and see what carista can do before buying another tool as you dont want to do a lot

 

[Tell]

I don't use the apps, better to use the programming option. The pro, 39-99 Euros.

I'd buy yourself a cheap Android tablet if you don't want to buy an Android phone with Bluetooth and Wi-Fi with Android 4.1. I see people have got it working on those Amazon sponsored Fire tablets.

http://forum.obdeleven.com/thread/1801/obdeleven-work-on-amazon-fire

Cheap tablet with the original dongle always worked out cheaper than buying VCDS for those that don't want to buy an Android phone or tablet who are iOS. Obviously a tablet has a bigger screen . May not have a 4G option thou dependent on model.

4g is useful if you can't ride off the back of someone's Fon if you have BT. Living in the sticks with a big drive have a plug and socket router in the upstairs office to illuminate the front with wifi these days. All of my best Obdeleven work was done on other peoples Fon since I'm a Fonerian.... imported into the UK. Dont think you can buy one now. You have to have BT but being on Virgin in London wanted to catch a ride on the Fon network outside of people homes I'd park outside . How Fon works by sharing your broadband.

You need broadband via Wi-Fi or 4G. VCDS you need a laptop and broadband or / and a 4G dongle if no Wi-Fi. Costs are higher with the latter. Either way you need a connection to the car. Obdeleven is more portable.

Look at the Ateca thread on mods.

https://forums.seatcupra.net/index....f-activity-working-ones-for-the-ateca.438134/

Tarraco is only a bigger Ateca / Tiguan. Nothing too special on variations in turning things on and off. I'd look for Kodiaq mods but Ateca ones will be good unless you want to play with the lighting units which will be unique. Allspace is ofcource the VW version. VW people may not be your ideal modders, Skoda Kodiaq more so.

The build codes is the key to what you can do via a Vin lookup on the component modules. If you got lane assist you will be able to turn on traffic sign recognition. I wouldnt entertain changing any engine management things except stop start.

The German Ateca forum have spread their wings to the Tarraco, worth having a look:

https://www.ateca-forum.de/index.php?thread/5997-obdeleven-und-tarraco/

The Spanish Tarraco site hasn't got off the starting blocks yet:

https://www.clubseattarraco.com/threads/odbeleven.110/

Worth eyeballing this Kodiaq thread

https://www.kodiaqforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1150&sid=16e89feb05637fcab09bec4eab0c5602

& of course the other thing in all of this is reading the health of the car's systems even if you aren't changing anything.

Edit July 2020. I see the combined iOS / Android dongle has arrived with the Pro version across both platforms. The so called Next-gen. Been doing the "resource" on the Ateca side updating the text.

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[t_v]

Hi all,

find below tried and tested Tarraco specific OBDEleven [OBD11] Adaptations. Saves you time going through other manufacturer threads and trialling many that don't work for the Tarraco.

I am an IT Consultant with a background in automotive and like to experiment, there are a few more I am testing currently (see bottom of the post), will update the list as and when they are confirmed as working. As always if any kind soul wants to test away, please do so and update accordingly, they will be added to the tried and tested section.

Needless to say but I will: take backups, always.

Traffic Sign Recognition Activation 2019 on

• Control unit 5F (Information Control Unit)
  Adaptation
  Name: Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2
  Access Control: traffic_sign_recognition_0x21
  Value = activated
  
  Name: Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2
  Access Control: menu_display_road_sign_identification
  Value = activated
  
  Access Control: menu_display_road_sign_identification_over_threshold_high
  Value = activated

• Control unit A5 (Driver Assistance)
  Security access > Access Code: 20103
  Long Coding
  Byte 16
  Bit 04 Activate
• Control unit A5 (Driver Assistance)
  Adaptation
  Road sign detection fusion mode
  Value = Fusion
  
  
• Control unit 17 (Dashboard)
  Long Coding
  Byte 5
  Bit 02 Activate

Traffic Sign Recognition Activation 2021 on

• Control unit 5F (Information Control Unit)
  Adaptation
  Name: Vehicle function list BAP
  Access Control: traffic_sign_recognition_0x21
  Value = activated
  
  Name: Vehicle Menu Operation
  Access Control: menu_display_road_sign_identification
  Value = activated
  
  Access Control: menu_display_road_sign_identification_over_threshold_high
  Value = activated

• Control unit A5 (Driver Assistance)
  Security access > Access Code: 20103
  Long Coding
  Byte 16
  Bit 04 Activate
• Control unit A5 (Driver Assistance)
  Adaptation
  Road sign detection fusion mode
  Value = Fusion
  
  
• Control unit 17 (Dashboard)
  Long Coding
  Byte 5
  Bit 02 Activate

High Beam Assist activation

• Module 09 [Central Electrics]
  Security access 31347
  Adaptation
  FernlichtAssistent
  Menusterung Fernlichtassisten -> Present
  Menusterung Fernlichassisten werkseinstellung ->Present
  Erweiterte Fernlichtassisten -> AFS, FLA, Fernlicht uber AFS
• Module A5 [Driver Assistance]
  Long Coding
  Byte 21 bit 5
• MY21 Module A5 Coding for HBA
  Module A5 [Driver Assistance]
  Long Coding
  Name: AFS coding Light Assist
  Value: High Beam Assist [default: No Light Assist]

FR Sport dash

• Dash Board (module 17)
  Adaptation: Sport, change to Display
  press and hold green tick mark

Lane Assist - Remember last setting

• Control Unit A5 - Driver Assistance
  Select Long coding
  Select setting Perso_HC
  Change Activated to Last_setting
  Press the green button to save the changes

Seat belt warning deactivation

• Control unit 17 (Dash Board)
  Adaptation
  Deactivate seat belt warning
  Value: Yes

Disable Start/Stop

• Control unit 19 (Gateway)
  Adaptation
  Start Stop Limit voltage
  Change value from 7.6 V to 12.1 V

Fan speed on Auto mode

• Control unit 08 (Air Condition)
  Long Coding
  Byte 11
  Bit 6 Activate

Refueling gasoline amount

• Control unit 17 (Dash Board)
  Long coding
  Byte 10
  Bit 4 Activate

Comfort blink cycle

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Aussenlicht_Blinker
  Access Control: Komfortblinken Blinkzyklen
  Value: 1-5 Value 3 (default – 3 x blinking)

Enable Scandinavian DRLs

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Aussenlicht_Front
  Access Control: Tagfahrlicht-Dauerfahrlicht aktiviert zusaetzlich Standlicht
  Value = active [default: not active]

Enable DRL control menu in Infotainment

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Aussenlicht_Front
  Access Control: Tagfahrlicht Aktivierung durch BAP oder Bedienfolge moeglich
  Value = aktiv [default: nicht aktiv]

DRLs off in Auto position (with ignition Off)

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Aussenlicht_Front
  Access Control: Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO
  Value = active [default: not active]

DRLs off with hand brake (with ignition Off)

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Aussenlicht_Front
  Access Control: Tagfahrlicht Dauerfahrlicht bei Handbremse abschalten
  Value = active [default: not active]

Foglights as coming home lights

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Aussenlicht_uebergreifend
  Access Control: Coming home Leuchten
  Value = Fog light [default: Low beam]

Allow Open/Close Windows with Ignition Off

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: ZV Komfort
  Access Control: Freigabenachlauf FH bei Tueroeffnen abbrechen
  Value = inactive [default: active]

Brake LIghts On with Boot Open

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Leuchte21BR RC8
  Access Control: Lichtfunktion B21
  Value = Heckdecken offen[default: nicht aktiv]
  
  Name: Leuchte20BR LA71
  Access Control: Lichtfunktion B20
  Value = Heckdecken offen[default: nicht aktiv]

Tailgate (Middle) Brake LIght On with Boot Open

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Leuchte22BR MA57
  Access Control: Lichtfunktion D22
  Value = Heckdecken offen[default: nicht aktiv]
  
  Access Control: Dimmwert CD22
  Value = 100 [default: 0]

Tailgate (Middle) brake light confirmation of lock/unlock

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Aussenlicht Blinker
  Access Control: ZV_Blinken_zu
  Value = Aktiv [default: Nicht aktiv]
  
  Access Control: ZV_Blinken_auf
  Value = Aktiv [default: Nicht aktiv]
  
  Name: Leuchte22BR MA57
  Access Control: Lichtfunktion B22
  Value = Aktive Blinkfunktion hat ein auf 1 gesetztes zugeordnetes Bit in pa dynamisch blinken [default: ]

Disable fuel cap lock while driving

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: ZV Autolock
  Access Control: Geschwindigkeitsabhaengige tankdeckelverriegelung
  Value = Nicht aktiv [default: Aktiv]

Light Assist - Remember last setting

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Fernlicht assistent
  Access Control: Fernlichtassistent reset
  Value = Nicht aktiv [default: Aktiv]

Adjust Steering Sensitivity during Start/Stop

• Control Unit 44 (Assisted Direction)
  Security access > Access Code: 19249
  Long Coding
  Name: Engine Start through power steering
  Value = Inactive [default: Active]

Door Open Warning Deactivation with the Ignition On

• Dash Board (module 17)
  Adaptation
  Name: Ignition Active Message, actuator
  Values:
  - No display [Activate]
  - Driver door [default]
  - All doors

Direct Throttle Response

• Control unit 44 (Steering)
  Adaptation
  Name: Driving Profile Switchover
  Value = Direct, controlled by threshold value [default: Incremental, controlled over time]

Audi Engine Mode (Needs ACC. Non ACC vehicles need further configuration of CU 13 (ACC) and also ABS properties of CU 01 (Engine). Not all faults clear even then so approach with care)

• Control unit 01(Engine)
  Long Coding
  Name: Byte 0
  Value = Bit 1 Set[default: Bit 0 Set]
  Confirm: Hex Value = 02

Change Speedometer Maximum Speed Value

• Control unit 17 (Dashboard)
  Adaptation
  Name: Tachometer End Value
  Values:
  - VAR 0 = 160mph [default]
  - VAR 2 = 140mph
  - VAR 3 = 180mph

Start/Stop button enables Valet Parking Mode

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Adaptation
  Name: Button in center console
  Access Control: Function of button 1
  Value = Valet parking [default: Start-stop]

Acoustic confirmation of central locking (also enables Infotainment control menu)

• Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Security access > Access Code: 31347
  Adaptation
  Name: Acknowledgement Signals
  Access Control: Akustische rueckmeldung global
  Value = Aktiv [default: Nicht aktiv]
  
  Access Control: Akustische rueckmeldung entriegeln (Beep twice on opening)
  Value = Aktiv [default: Nicht aktiv]
  
  Access Control: Akustische rueckmeldung verriegeln (Beep once on closing)
  Value = Aktiv [default: Nicht aktiv]
  
  Access Control: Dauer der Akustischen Rueckmeldung vom Einfachhorn (Length of beeping sound)
  Value = kurz [default: normal]
  
  Access Control: Menuesteuerung akustische rueckmeldung (Enable Infotainment control menu)
  Value = Aktiv [default: Nicht aktiv]

Mirrors unfold only with Start/Stop button

• Control Unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Adaptation
  Name: Spiegelverstellung
  Access Control: Signalisierung_Spiegelanklappung
  Value: Nicht Aktiv [default: Aktiv]

Driving Profile displayed in the Digital Cockpit

• Control Unit 19 (Gateway)
  Long Coding
  Byte 8
  Check Bit 4
  Confirm Byte 8 Hex = F9

Remote control buttons working with engine on

• Control Unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Adaptation
  Name: ZV allgemein
  Access Control: Funk bei Klemme 15 ein
  Value: Activ [default: Nicht Aktiv]

Enable "rear window wiping in reverse gear" control under "Mirror and wiper setup"

• Control Unit 09 (Central Electrics)
  Adaptation
  Name: Rear Window Wiper
  Access Control: Menuesteuerung Komfortwischen HW
  Value: Activ [default: Nicht Aktiv]

 

[Tell]

Good list.

With regard to SFD there are specific control units that are locked down as it rolls out across the Vag brand. Having identified which control units these are you can pen out the ones that aren't possible if you got one of the vehicles. Doing mods with the bonnet up is also a new way of working it appears with post 2020 models.

These control units are the ones people identify as locked down:

01 - engine electronics
09 - Electronic central electrics
19 - Diagnostic interface for data bus
5F - information electronics

High hopes on anything that includes those on the list are likely to be dashed.

On Leon 4s people have modded their dash... how they managed to do that since it wasn't on the list. The roll out may bring in other units. Experimentation and literature search is the order of the day if you got SFD on the car. Did read people had turned off stop / start which doesn't tally with the list.

 

[t_v]

Added a few more that I tested today, namely:

• Tailgate (Middle) brake light confirmation of lock/unlock
• Disable fuel cap lock while driving
• Light Assist - Remember last setting
• Adjust Steering Sensitivity during Start/Stop
• Activate Carbon Background (Infotainment)

CH/LH with DRLs only is still elusive. Any assistance welcome. I have added the coding in the Testing section of the post.

 

[t_v]

Added a few more that I tested today, namely:

• Door Open Warning Deactivation with the Ignition On
• Direct Throttle Response
• Audi Engine Mode (Read the caveats carefully before applying)

Any tips on CH/LH with DRLs only welcome as it is proving a tricky one (coding in the Testing section of the mods post).

 

[Tell]

Added a few more that I tested today, namely:

• Door Open Warning Deactivation with the Ignition On
• Direct Throttle Response
• Audi Engine Mode (Read the caveats carefully before applying)

Any tips on CH/LH with DRLs only welcome as it is proving a tricky one (coding in the Testing section of the mods post).

May be this one

HOWTO: Coming Home/Leaving Home lights using DRLs only

www.vwvortex.com

I see from the Google Drive document he's into each of the lighting units so it's going to be Tarraco specific I guess with a bit of trial and error.

There is Tarraco one mentioned on the Google

CH/LH with DRLs only tarraco - Google Search

It isn't a mod I've used but I've had a women knock the glass at me when I use to street park with the light on as I walked off ... miserable lot in London .

 

[t_v]

May be this one

HOWTO: Coming Home/Leaving Home lights using DRLs only

www.vwvortex.com

I see from the Google Drive document he's into each of the lighting units so it's going to be Tarraco specific I guess with a bit of trial and error.

There is Tarraco one mentioned on the Google

CH/LH with DRLs only tarraco - Google Search

It isn't a mod I've used but I've had a women knock the glass at me when I use to street park with the light on as I walked off ... miserable lot in London .

The VWVortex doc was my starting point.

I then picked up the SEAT Lighting channels from the Leon: https://forum.obdeleven.com/thread/2125/lighting-channels. Some channels don't apply to the Tarraco as it is LED only front/rear but I have included everything just in case.

The Tarraco mention is me on Tarracoforums as I maintain a mirror thread in case anyone stumbles on solutions there.

 

[Tell]

The VWVortex doc was my starting point.

I then picked up the SEAT Lighting channels from the Leon: https://forum.obdeleven.com/thread/2125/lighting-channels. Some channels don't apply to the Tarraco as it is LED only front/rear but I have included everything just in case.

The Tarraco mention is me on Tarracoforums as I maintain a mirror thread in case anyone stumbles on solutions there.

Allspace is another one to look for and Kodiaq. Will put it on the back burner.

 

[t_v]

Allspace is another one to look for and Kodiaq. Will put it on the back burner.

It was bugging me so I figured it out in the end (and I can't make CH/LH with DRLs only work, yet, see below why).

When I am baffled I tend to put pen (or pencil for that matter) on paper to map functions and then transfer to diagrams and spreadsheets for posterity.

I used miceor's diagrammatic system as it looks cool and after poking and proding found that the Front DRLs/Indicators of the Tarraco are not managed via Leuchte progamming (as I couldn't find any that works). I am happy to stand corrected.

...

 

[t_v]

Amended Tarraco specific Lighting Reference to update the Front and a couple of units at the Rear.

As you can see, there doesn't seem to be any exposed functional Leuchte Programming for the Front Dipped Beam, Main Beam and DRLs/Indicators that look like they are controlled now by two distinct LED Modules (D6 and D7).

I confirmed when doing a Live Data capture where I could see the various settings change during operation but have no entries either under Adaptations or Long Coding which leaves only the Fog Lights to play with and that doesn't amount to much.

If anyone knows more kindly update, will be happy to test accordingly.

 

[t_v]

Added a couple of fun ones (for me at least ), namely:

• Change Speedometer Maximum Speed Value
• Start/Stop button enables Valet Parking Mode

 

[t_v]

Added a couple more, widely used but for some reason didn't include them in the original list:

• Enable DRL control menu in Infotainment
• Audible confirmation of lock/unlock (also enables Infotainment control menu)

 

[t_v]

Traffic Sign Recognition Activation and High Beam Assist activation have been added (finally, I submitted them back in Jan 2021) as Apps to OBDEleven so you don't need Pro any more to configure them.

The only fly in the ointment is the price: 100 credits (£13.99) each, ouch.

With these two added the majority of mods in the mods post are also Apps for non Pro users.

 

[Tell]

I like the Pro... in the past some of their apps haven't been tested correctly so people use credits but it doesn't work. It's the sales speak of you can do this, that and the other on one push. Never used the apps... got over 400 points. Like Green Shield stamps I'll be able to get my Lone Star triple gauge set soon . N gauge obviously.

Notice they are putting in an ambiguous pricing structure for the Pro. If you have it, you have it for life, but life time deals at a discount for those that miss the date, other than that annual. Cunning way to pay for SFD one suspects on 2020 post.

 

[t_v]

Added a "MY21 Module A5 Coding for HBA" section to the HBA config, works for MY19 onwards as well but I will leave the older mod for continuity purposes.

 

[t_v]

Added a couple of other bits and bobs as I was in the car anyway:

• Mirrors unfold only with Start/Stop button
• Driving Profile displayed in the Digital Cockpit (when changing the Driving Profile it will show momentarily instead of the ambient temp)
• Remote control buttons working with engine on

 

[karkoura]

Please support with Tarraco My21 RDS enabling as radio station only shows as frequencies not station name
Can be done through long coding ? obdeleven