OBD II and Torque App

slamka33

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Any experience with OBD II adapter paired with Bluetooth to your phone, running for example Torque app??
Does it work for Leon MK3?

OBD II adapter is quite cheap todays, so thinking about it just for fun, but if it is not working, then it's a waste of money..

Sorry if it it somewhere posted, I tried search but did not found any topic under MK3 related to this.
 

Nobziller

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I used it on mine, and it ended up short circuiting 12 internal wires, and they all had to be replaced, this was causing a sport button malfunction, and it took seat 2 months to fix it. Wouldn't bother
 

niggle

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I have one of the cheap, generic Chinese Bluetooth "Scan Tool" OBD2 adapters sourced from eBay. It works fine with the Torque Pro app on my Android phone and Nexus tablet.

It's OK for gauges, general fault codes etc but if you want to see all VAG specific fault codes and tinker with module settings then you really need VCDS. I have used a couple of very cheap VCDS clone cables sourced from AliExpress and they do work.
 
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Hoikey

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I have a cheap bluetooth one from eBay and use it for torque and carista. Works great on my ibiza and also worked fine on my swift. Useful if you have an engine light on and want to turn it off

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CharlesTheTog

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Ran torque on every car I've had. Bought a bluetooth obd2 adapter for about £15. And the app for £3 i think. Love it! Can bring up everything from boost required to boost delivered, IAT's etc all on my phone. It's a need larl package. Fairly acurate as well. Yes I could just get my laptop out but it's nice and convenient
 

CharlesTheTog

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Another cool thing about torque and OBD2 adapters. If your head unit is on android you can having it running on that.

A few people on this forum may remember I hated the standard head unit. I wanted to change it but never got round to it only having the Leon for 7 month. If you check my instagram @CharlesTheTog you'll see a shot of the steering wheel of a Citroen DS3. If you look in the bottom left of the picture I have torque running on that double din head unit.

If I still owned a leon now I'd buy the Pumpkin double din unit for the MQB platform and have torque running on that (whilst keeping all other features available on the OEM head unit)
 

JamesA

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Is Torque (Lite version) still working for people with the cheap obd2 devices?
I was unable to get mine to work with Torque, but it did work with ScanMaster android app (from Germany).

Another app showed a message saying I'd plugged a dodgy ELM 327 one in and it wouldn't work.
Suggestion by a review was they're trying to make you get the paid Torque app version.
Another suggestion is that they're stopping some apps working with the Chinese copies as they are dodgy.
 

JamesA

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Thanks. Think it's a faulty dongle then rather than the app.
The £60-70 for an "official" one is a bit much considering dongle are about £5 these days.
Trying to get one <£20 that works on Ibiza and Leon.
 

Dan FR

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A large portion of the ECU data available through the OBD port is VAG specific and not generic OBD2 protocol. As such it will not be picked up by Torque which is OBD2 only. Things such as the misfire counters, cam phase/position, timing retard/pull/correction etc. are all VAG specific and are not available. All you will get with torque are the basic temperatures and pressures, and basic OBD2 fault codes. VAG specific fault codes will not be picked up, even if they are engine/ecu related

Cheap Chinese ELM327s work fine on the full version of torque. Mine was under a tenner and I've had it about 4 years, and it gets left plugged in 24/7. used it in my old Mk4 Golf and current Mk2 Leon without a single issue

Just buy from a well-used UK seller and pay the couple of quid for the full app
 
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Hoikey

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Aug 5, 2015
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A large portion of the ECU data available through the OBD port is VAG specific and not generic OBD2 protocol. As such it will not be picked up by Torque which is OBD2 only. Things such as the misfire counters, cam phase/position, timing retard/pull/correction etc. are all VAG specific and are not available. All you will get with torque are the basic temperatures and pressures, and basic OBD2 fault codes. VAG specific fault codes will not be picked up, even if they are engine/ecu related

Cheap Chinese ELM327s work fine on the full version of torque. Mine was under a tenner and I've had it about 4 years, and it gets left plugged in 24/7. used it in my old Mk4 Golf and current Mk2 Leon without a single issue

Just buy from a well-used UK seller and pay the couple of quid for the full app
That's not necessarily true. Just because it's proprietary messaging and not standard doesn't mean Torque won't pick it up. If you coded the proprietary stuff into the torque database it would display it all correctly. The data is all there, torque is just a database to convert it into a more user friendly number

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Dan FR

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Now we are going off on a tangent.

Yes ot is physically possible if you mapped the correct PIDs etc. But since the tools developer hasnt managed to do this as yet despite a number of years in development, I stand by what i wrote
 
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