MIB3/SFD2 Navigation activation

serdar_18fr

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Hi everyone,

When I had ordered my Cupra Ateca, I was expecting that it would come with Navigation feature included, as there was an Ateca with the exact same trim in the showroom and it had navigation on it. But when I collected the car, much to my dismay, there was no navigation on it and the infotainment screen was telling me that I could "go to a dealer and purchase the navigation feature". But here in Turkey, no Cupra dealer nor the Turkish importer of VAG cars has been selling a navigation license so I had to leave the dealer with the excitement of a brand new car but also the disappointment of an unexpected outcome. The people at the dealer told me there's an unresolved conflict between car importers and the government about using the map data/satellite bandwidth and because of that, the cars that have been coming to Turkey for a year or so have no navigation feature, but if & when the problem is solved, the navigation in our cars could be activated by an update. I'm not sure that this is true but when I checked the full PR list of my car, I saw that it has "7UH - Preparation for navigation system (MIB)". I mean, it wasn't saying "no navigation" but "preparation", so what the dealer told me about the activation could be true, I thought. As for why & how there was an Ateca in the showroom with the navigation, they were completely clueless!

Anyway, I had no patience for waiting to hear from the dealer or the importer company and I took the matter into my own hands and looked for a retrofitter who would be able to activate the navigation on a MIB3 unit of a SFD2-protected car. I found one, who has a Chinese contact, who is able to enable the navigation FECs & prepare the needed tokens for required coding changes (of course for a not-so-cheap sum) and we proceeded with the activation. After some time comparing the codings & adaptations of a sample car with mine and haggling with the missing coding changes, we managed to get it worked! After three months with my new car, I'm happy again as if I bought another new car :giggle:

Here are some photos of this new actually-not-so-much-needed toy in my car & cheers to everyone.
Serdar

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cairus

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What did the purchase contract say? Did you back up the documentation to the server? Because your FeC code disappeared during an update at the workshop with ODIS. You also know that your warranty on the navigation system has almost certainly expired?
 

serdar_18fr

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What did the purchase contract say? Did you back up the documentation to the server? Because your FeC code disappeared during an update at the workshop with ODIS. You also know that your warranty on the navigation system has almost certainly expired?

No mention of navigation in the purchase contract, so it was my fault to be expecting that it was included.
It is not an official license activation so there's no way to back it up to the server.
Yes, if they re-code the units 5F, 09, 75, I would lose it.
And yes for the last question also.
 

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This was always a question with mib2 highs and retrofitters or DIY, what if you loosed the FeCs in a dealer update. Hasn't occurred to my knowledge but mib3 is more updateable by firmware and better locked down. You are at the mercy of retrofitters if something goes wrong where DIY solutions to my knowledge don't exist unlike mib2.

Prep in your spec sounds like how they use to be sold for mib2 standard in Israel / Middle East due to issues around navigation they were sold without SD cards (all Vag cars). You just needed a card and download the file to put in and they passed from preparation to being enabled. Probably something similar was expected to enable navigation.
 
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serdar_18fr

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Prep in your spec sounds like how they use to be sold for mib2 standard in Israel / Middle East due to issues around navigation they were sold without SD cards (all Vag cars). You just needed a card and download the file to put in and they passed from preparation to being enabled. Probably something similar was expected to enable navigation.

Unfortunately it wasn't just a matter of downloading/copying the map files to the unit because the FEC related to navigation wasn't enabled in factory & also there were a lot of adaptation items in multiple units that we had to change. I still wonder whether the "preparation" was ever meant to be enabled by dealers somehow, sometime when the laws permitted it or so-called conflict was resolved.
 

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The dealer does it using the action code. Odis takes care of the rest.
 

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Unfortunately it wasn't just a matter of downloading/copying the map files to the unit because the FEC related to navigation wasn't enabled in factory & also there were a lot of adaptation items in multiple units that we had to change. I still wonder whether the "preparation" was ever meant to be enabled by dealers somehow, sometime when the laws permitted it or so-called conflict was resolved.
Probably a software pack they were going to issue that would do it. Mib2 standard it's generates the FeCs once the SD card goes in. They were all shipped like that in Europe just for mib2 standard. In Israel and around the local government dictated that Vag were not to sell the cars with navigation. Turkey there might be a similar dispute or misunderstanding about boundaries, names and territories ?. That car you saw someone had turned it on.
 
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