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Looking at another thread in the wee hours last night, I noticed a rather splendid exploded diagram of a Timax OE replacement 'xorst. This lists the Cat pipe external diameter at 50mm and the centre section that sleeves around it at 50.5mm. That'll be why the Janspeed is such a b*gger to fit 
i wouldnt cut it i would put a jack handle or something similar inside and just bend the four tabs out a bit.
you only need to get it in a little bit (with some paste) to get it started then it will bang in like before.
dont worry about the bent bits cause as long as you dont go to mad a heavy duty clamp will pull it back straight.
are you local to me? (wilts)
you only need to get it in a little bit (with some paste) to get it started then it will bang in like before.
dont worry about the bent bits cause as long as you dont go to mad a heavy duty clamp will pull it back straight.
are you local to me? (wilts)
Not very near - Hertforshire - land of green wellies and Chelseas tractors.
In a fit of exasperation I have used a pole to push the 4 lugs out slightly and can now get the box on but not quite far enough to avoid knocking. Spurred on by this success and too much beer, I've now sawn off a bit of the old exhaust which is the same 50mm diameter as the cat pipe. This has been repeatedly knocked in & then out of the Janspeed which may be close to fitting now. As its rather late and dark I will give it another go tomorrow.
In a fit of exasperation I have used a pole to push the 4 lugs out slightly and can now get the box on but not quite far enough to avoid knocking. Spurred on by this success and too much beer, I've now sawn off a bit of the old exhaust which is the same 50mm diameter as the cat pipe. This has been repeatedly knocked in & then out of the Janspeed which may be close to fitting now. As its rather late and dark I will give it another go tomorrow.
Its me again! Ooooh its so close now.
Got the whole system on but it needs to go just that little bit further on to the cat to avoid knocking at the 90 degree bend after the centre section. Knackered again but am going to give it one last go with blowtorch and mallet... wish me luck!
close now.Got the whole system on but it needs to go just that little bit further on to the cat to avoid knocking at the 90 degree bend after the centre section. Knackered again but am going to give it one last go with blowtorch and mallet... wish me luck!
Thanks for the support Phil8vgti.
Gave up with the rubber mallet - couldn't get a good swing in the limited space.
With the whole xorst on loosely, heated the Janspeed pipe at the Cat joint with the blowtorch (gently now) and lying directly under the xorst, grabbed the back of the centre box and pulled towards the Cat whilst applying a slight twisting motion.
Just imagine how surprised the local biddy was when she came hurrying down the road to find 16 stone of frustrated idiot yelling "Grrrrrrragggghh" underneath a bright yella Beeza in the middle of a thunderstorm!
Finally managed to squeeeeze the b*gger on during the thunder and lightning!
I was so relieved and excited by the new very burbly idle note that I had to go for a little pootle with the windows down in the rain.
Shame I'd forgotten someone had nicked my plates. Doh!
Once its had a chance to bed in, I'll check for knocks and vibrations and make any necessary adjustments. Time for nice cold beer.
Gave up with the rubber mallet - couldn't get a good swing in the limited space.
With the whole xorst on loosely, heated the Janspeed pipe at the Cat joint with the blowtorch (gently now) and lying directly under the xorst, grabbed the back of the centre box and pulled towards the Cat whilst applying a slight twisting motion.
Just imagine how surprised the local biddy was when she came hurrying down the road to find 16 stone of frustrated idiot yelling "Grrrrrrragggghh" underneath a bright yella Beeza in the middle of a thunderstorm!
Finally managed to squeeeeze the b*gger on during the thunder and lightning!
I was so relieved and excited by the new very burbly idle note that I had to go for a little pootle with the windows down in the rain.
Shame I'd forgotten someone had nicked my plates. Doh!
Once its had a chance to bed in, I'll check for knocks and vibrations and make any necessary adjustments. Time for nice cold beer.
NG55
Guest
Magnex...whats the problem???
Hi
I hear some bad things said about Magnex systems from a few individuals on here and would like to bottom the "Im a personal friend / benefiting very nicely from the Millingtons" brigade from those who may very well have a genuine issue.
I ask the question as I am the Magnex brand manager...oh & I drive a Leon FR!
So
What are the problems (if any) and on what systems?
If there are fit issues I will make sure they are put right - we at Magnex take a pride in the quality & fit of our exhausts and want to make sure our thus far excellent reputation remains unsullied.
As for power - we are now developing purely for that purpose, rolling road development being an integral part of the programme.
All the best
JT
Hi
I hear some bad things said about Magnex systems from a few individuals on here and would like to bottom the "Im a personal friend / benefiting very nicely from the Millingtons" brigade from those who may very well have a genuine issue.
I ask the question as I am the Magnex brand manager...oh & I drive a Leon FR!
So
What are the problems (if any) and on what systems?
If there are fit issues I will make sure they are put right - we at Magnex take a pride in the quality & fit of our exhausts and want to make sure our thus far excellent reputation remains unsullied.
As for power - we are now developing purely for that purpose, rolling road development being an integral part of the programme.
All the best
JT
Hi,
very brave and good of you to post and try to sort of things like this!
I had a magnex cat back system on my last mk2 ibiza, knocked on the back beam due to its weight (even with uprated and shortened hangers) droned like mad at 70-80mph (which in a long motorway journey is where you spend most of your time) and the baffles rattled like mad after about 5k. Shame as it looked the dogs blx. Seems to be a common collection of faults on the mk2 from reading posts on here. If you could sort those probs out and release one a 6x4 backbox/system for the cordoba i'd buy one tomorrow.
very brave and good of you to post and try to sort of things like this!
I had a magnex cat back system on my last mk2 ibiza, knocked on the back beam due to its weight (even with uprated and shortened hangers) droned like mad at 70-80mph (which in a long motorway journey is where you spend most of your time) and the baffles rattled like mad after about 5k. Shame as it looked the dogs blx. Seems to be a common collection of faults on the mk2 from reading posts on here. If you could sort those probs out and release one a 6x4 backbox/system for the cordoba i'd buy one tomorrow.
NG55
Guest
Not at all... that's what we are about - customer service!
I have to say it surprises me that even though we offer a lifetime warrantee if a system is faulty the consumer decided to junk it rather than get it sorted!
Do you still have the system by chance? - i'd like to know where we went wrong so we can sort it out ASAP.
In the past I know we have had fit issues when we have fitted to a standard car (which we always prefer to do) and then our customers decide to lower their cars.
The same is true if our development car has an aftermarket kit fitted (Nathen Harding's car springs to mind) - in situations like this we frequently have to develop two or more versions of the system.
All in all it can be quite a difficult job making an exhaust fit a car with the myriad tuning options fitted by the end user.
That does not excuse build quality issues however, which if present, we need to address urgently!
JT
I have to say it surprises me that even though we offer a lifetime warrantee if a system is faulty the consumer decided to junk it rather than get it sorted!
Do you still have the system by chance? - i'd like to know where we went wrong so we can sort it out ASAP.
In the past I know we have had fit issues when we have fitted to a standard car (which we always prefer to do) and then our customers decide to lower their cars.
The same is true if our development car has an aftermarket kit fitted (Nathen Harding's car springs to mind) - in situations like this we frequently have to develop two or more versions of the system.
All in all it can be quite a difficult job making an exhaust fit a car with the myriad tuning options fitted by the end user.
That does not excuse build quality issues however, which if present, we need to address urgently!
JT
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I'm afraid I don't - it was one of the factors that made me sell up the car (as I wasn't going to spend another £300 odd to replace the exhaust) and sold it with the car. I know I could have claimed on the warranty, but often its too much hastle - having paid out a fair fee to have it fitted, then adjusted numerous times.
I understand what you say about lowering - it is a tight fit on the rear axle, and lowering by -40mm+ doesn't help at all. The problem seems to be partly in the weight - its much heavier than supersprint/miltek or remus systems i've used/am using.
I'm sure one of the other members with one still fitted will comment shortly. Oh, and I wouldn't worry too much,despite the above comments your systems are still worlds above miltek in quality,if not performance.....
I understand what you say about lowering - it is a tight fit on the rear axle, and lowering by -40mm+ doesn't help at all. The problem seems to be partly in the weight - its much heavier than supersprint/miltek or remus systems i've used/am using.
I'm sure one of the other members with one still fitted will comment shortly. Oh, and I wouldn't worry too much,despite the above comments your systems are still worlds above miltek in quality,if not performance.....
NG55
Guest
Thank you Scott - that fetches me a great premium here (pointing toward heart).
In future power will be "our" thing - one has to be carfull with the likes of VOSA & Plod probing & DBA testing folks these days then handing out prohibition orders & fines - but we are working on a few things at Magnex towers that should unsettle fans of "made in a pig shed" exhausts!
JT
In future power will be "our" thing - one has to be carfull with the likes of VOSA & Plod probing & DBA testing folks these days then handing out prohibition orders & fines - but we are working on a few things at Magnex towers that should unsettle fans of "made in a pig shed" exhausts!
JT
just out of interest, are your universal back boxes the same as your 'proper system' ones, or cheaper straight through boxes? Ie, are they going to make my car sound like a motorbike without silencers or just be a bit rorty. I was looking at getting one of the 6x4 jobs custom fitted onto the back of my current remus system - which sounds and performs great, but looks a bit limp
any info would be welcome, thanks again!
any info would be welcome, thanks again!
Very brave posting on behalf of your employers.
I wasn't entirely satisfied with the 6x4 oval back box for my mk2 Ibiza on a few points
i) The noise on motorways
ii) Rattling on the rear beam - the car was lowered
iii) The badge stuck on tail pipe came off and left an unsightly mark, it never polished out.
iiii) the vendor's attituded sucked, saying that it was the best they could get it and did'nt want to adress any issues.
I contacted Magnex and didn't get any of my calls or emails returned
Its water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned, but wont touch magnex products with a bargepole
I wasn't entirely satisfied with the 6x4 oval back box for my mk2 Ibiza on a few points
i) The noise on motorways
ii) Rattling on the rear beam - the car was lowered
iii) The badge stuck on tail pipe came off and left an unsightly mark, it never polished out.
iiii) the vendor's attituded sucked, saying that it was the best they could get it and did'nt want to adress any issues.
I contacted Magnex and didn't get any of my calls or emails returned
Its water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned, but wont touch magnex products with a bargepole
NG55
Guest
Scott - the universals are, to the best of my knowledge exactly the same build spec as one of our complete systems.
There has to be compromises though as (in the case of the 6 x 4 oval) the silencer body is in just one size.
If we were developing a specific system for a new car we would try to match the size & internal volume of the original part in order to get the best possible fit on OE mounting points.
A uni should sound every bit as good as a full system though clearly you are reliant to a large extent on the quality of the fitter as far as aesthetics & tolerances to rear valence & under body parts are concerned.
Stu
Im sorry to hear you've had bad experiences with a Magnex product, which genuinely I have to say is a very rare thing - our fit is 99 times out of 100 vastly better than any other aftermarket exhaust.
As I said earlier - we have to develop on a standard car to give us the best possible chance of a trouble free fit in the majority of cases.
The lower the car goes - the greater the chance of a body clearance issue there is.
We no longer place stickers on the tail trim for the reason you mentioned and we do test all our development cars on the road after we have fitted an exhaust representative of main production - if there is any unacceptable or invasive noise at this stage then it's back to the drawing board.
This does not allow for subsequent problems though so we are reliant on our customers for feed back on such things - that we have let you down in the past is unforgivable and you have my sincerest apologies for that.
The support of our dealers is paramount in what we have striven to achieve - if you would care to PM me I would be very keen to learn of any poor service you may have had from that quarter.
Lastly - yes I am of course paid in my role as brand manager for Magnex, but it is so much more than simply representing my empolyer.
As I see it the Magnex name is associated with a top notch UK product made from the highest quality materials and engineered to give optimum performance, fit, reliability and sound for a multitude of applications at a price that doesnt give the customer a heart attack and the manufacturer a holiday in the Bahamas with every system sold!
It grieves me personally to see the Magnex brand dragged down by an occasional problem - granted, it is our job to look after our customers (which again is something we are normally exceptionally good at) and if we have failed in that then "hands up"
I'm here to put it right...give us another chance and I'll personally make sure we do!
JT
There has to be compromises though as (in the case of the 6 x 4 oval) the silencer body is in just one size.
If we were developing a specific system for a new car we would try to match the size & internal volume of the original part in order to get the best possible fit on OE mounting points.
A uni should sound every bit as good as a full system though clearly you are reliant to a large extent on the quality of the fitter as far as aesthetics & tolerances to rear valence & under body parts are concerned.
Stu
Im sorry to hear you've had bad experiences with a Magnex product, which genuinely I have to say is a very rare thing - our fit is 99 times out of 100 vastly better than any other aftermarket exhaust.
As I said earlier - we have to develop on a standard car to give us the best possible chance of a trouble free fit in the majority of cases.
The lower the car goes - the greater the chance of a body clearance issue there is.
We no longer place stickers on the tail trim for the reason you mentioned and we do test all our development cars on the road after we have fitted an exhaust representative of main production - if there is any unacceptable or invasive noise at this stage then it's back to the drawing board.
This does not allow for subsequent problems though so we are reliant on our customers for feed back on such things - that we have let you down in the past is unforgivable and you have my sincerest apologies for that.
The support of our dealers is paramount in what we have striven to achieve - if you would care to PM me I would be very keen to learn of any poor service you may have had from that quarter.
Lastly - yes I am of course paid in my role as brand manager for Magnex, but it is so much more than simply representing my empolyer.
As I see it the Magnex name is associated with a top notch UK product made from the highest quality materials and engineered to give optimum performance, fit, reliability and sound for a multitude of applications at a price that doesnt give the customer a heart attack and the manufacturer a holiday in the Bahamas with every system sold!
It grieves me personally to see the Magnex brand dragged down by an occasional problem - granted, it is our job to look after our customers (which again is something we are normally exceptionally good at) and if we have failed in that then "hands up"
I'm here to put it right...give us another chance and I'll personally make sure we do!
JT
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