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Jabbasport Remap K03s Ibiza
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Shock_Xe
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nice results mate.
Suppose it was quick becuae of the volume they have done. Remember myself and Adam had the first K03s maps done there with fmic etc achieved same power almost 2 years ago!!! And We know we have sent atleast a dozen people there directly with same/similar spec. so like anything the more u do the quicker it becomes.
And as said in thread (also what i have said in another thread) Jabba have had issues with previous customers with dodgy DIY installs, makes all the difference time wise and hassle free
Suppose it was quick becuae of the volume they have done. Remember myself and Adam had the first K03s maps done there with fmic etc achieved same power almost 2 years ago!!! And We know we have sent atleast a dozen people there directly with same/similar spec. so like anything the more u do the quicker it becomes.
And as said in thread (also what i have said in another thread) Jabba have had issues with previous customers with dodgy DIY installs, makes all the difference time wise and hassle free
flashbsd
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The_one said:Great stuff.
Take your car for a custom live road mapping session.
Few hundred quid lighter plus the loss of your license
Exactly, live mapping is all well and good and I can see the benefits but personally if I was having it done I wouldn't want to do it on the road. Somewhere like Bruntingthorpe would be perfect, are there any airfields near JBS (Chesterfield) that they could use??
Jonzy
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Alot of tuners use brunters, but I know alot will happily live map on the open road when its quiet.
Shock_Xe
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Madmile said:All ko3s maps were based around my original E05 map i believe.
yeah I think originally the base perameters were around the E05 map, then modifications were made to t to accomodate the fmic and 3" dp in addition. and evolved from there
flashbsd said:
Boost in 1st,2nd & 3rd hits 23psi,4th & 5th about 19psi.Drops to about 15psi at red line & holds.Mike had to pull it back 'cos it was boosting to 25psi and trying to hold it for too long.
flashbsd
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The_one said:
rollers get things very hot, sustained loads and fans which rarely properly cool the whole car, exhaust etc etc
fine for power testing, but heat is the enemy.
very very hard to hold a car on load on the road though, especially a powerful car, mine scares teh bejeesus out of me at big throttle openings, there is no way I could 'map' the car on the public road. The way to do it properly is
1) engine dyno to run the engine in properly and then map on the dyno - adjust cam timing as necessary
2) fit engine to car, with cars exhaust and ancillaries and set up on RR
3) road test, data log (so hands on wheel at all times) and optimise further based on road testing - improved cooling etc / ramair effects
4) go back and remap after 6 months
Rob
1) engine dyno to run the engine in properly and then map on the dyno - adjust cam timing as necessary
2) fit engine to car, with cars exhaust and ancillaries and set up on RR
3) road test, data log (so hands on wheel at all times) and optimise further based on road testing - improved cooling etc / ramair effects
4) go back and remap after 6 months
Rob
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when people say map on the road, reality is its not mapping its logging on the road.. then adjusting map and reload and relog.
mine has been held on the rollers full throttle, high rpms and the rollers win.... car melts into submission in extreme case.
Nothing like these loads are real life tho. Its always accelerating, never sat static at a held rpm in real ife, so why dyno a dynamic load based ecu on a fixed load basis? Its doable and people have this preference. It has its risks in temperature rise and strain that puts on components. Datalogging real life, real road speeds, gears, throttle positions simulates has its advantages, and downsides.. For high powered cars, low gear traction high throttle positions, dont achieve the requested loads due to mechanical traction issues... to tame these you work up the box to "load" more down, but the more power you have the less gears achive the load (more wheelspin) and the end result is using tall gears and the speeds which can occur then, can be high. (same as we drive em for real when conditions allow) - My own car for one is a pain in the neck to map on the road. (too much power not enough grip)
type of ecu vs mapping technicque also a factor.
load based ecu mapping vs 2D map type mapping....
I've run DTA's on the dyno and done exactly the hold at fixe rpm to dial in ign and fueling (non turbo), but run times become so short as you progress up the rev/throttle opening band that you sit waiting for temps to recover more than you do mapping.
I would'nt use this method on a Bosch ME7.x type ecu however given its configuration.
no right or wrongs here... just preferences...
mine has been held on the rollers full throttle, high rpms and the rollers win.... car melts into submission in extreme case.
Nothing like these loads are real life tho. Its always accelerating, never sat static at a held rpm in real ife, so why dyno a dynamic load based ecu on a fixed load basis? Its doable and people have this preference. It has its risks in temperature rise and strain that puts on components. Datalogging real life, real road speeds, gears, throttle positions simulates has its advantages, and downsides.. For high powered cars, low gear traction high throttle positions, dont achieve the requested loads due to mechanical traction issues... to tame these you work up the box to "load" more down, but the more power you have the less gears achive the load (more wheelspin) and the end result is using tall gears and the speeds which can occur then, can be high. (same as we drive em for real when conditions allow) - My own car for one is a pain in the neck to map on the road. (too much power not enough grip)
type of ecu vs mapping technicque also a factor.
load based ecu mapping vs 2D map type mapping....
I've run DTA's on the dyno and done exactly the hold at fixe rpm to dial in ign and fueling (non turbo), but run times become so short as you progress up the rev/throttle opening band that you sit waiting for temps to recover more than you do mapping.
I would'nt use this method on a Bosch ME7.x type ecu however given its configuration.
no right or wrongs here... just preferences...
Perhaps I should have originally said it was first mapped on the roller's.It was then taken out by Mike for a road test on several occasions to make minor adjustments(rollers & road).I'm completely satisfied with the results,hence having a round trip of 330 miles.
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