Is My 2013 Leon FR 150 Diesel DSG Euro 6?
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Euro 6 was launched in September 2015. It is highly unlikely your car was Euro 6 compliant 2 years before that. I suspect yours has the Euro 5 cheaty diesel.
All of the Mk 3 Leon are fitted with an EA 288 engine which has both a DPF and uses EGR technology. In some cars this was fitted as EU 5 compliant and is currently the diesel being fitted to all new VAG 4 cylinder diesel cars as EU 6 compliant and depending on vehicle load it still uses just DPF and strict control EGR or in others it uses SCR (secondary catalytic reduction of Nox using urea injection- adblue)
My work 66 plate 150BHP Audi A3 is EU6, has the EA288 engine and does not use adblue but some of the heavier and bigger bodies Audi's have adblue with the same engine.
I think my personal 14 plate 184 is also EU 6 compliant because of the complex EGR system but I am willing to be corrected. I have read that all EA288 units sold in Europe were EU6 compliant even before the deadline but that it was models supplied outside the EU that had an EU 5 version of the same EA288 engine but I can only find a single source to support this theory.
The cheating diesel engine is the previous EA189 which was EU 5 compliant in that it had a DPF fitted but needed the cheat device to stay below the NOX level allowed in EU 5. This is the engine in the diesel Mk 2 Leons
Great research...out by one year it was September 2014 but it was actually announced in 2012. The cheaty diesels (EA189) were never fitted to the Mk 3 Leon
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Mine was a 63 plate 2.0TDI DSG 150. During Dieselgate, Seat owners of the 1.6 and 2.0 TDIs were engcouraged to input their VIN details on their website to check if their engines warranted a recall. I did mine, but it was not affected.
So yea, mine's was a 'dumb' diesel, it doesn't know the difference between real world and testing conditions
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I always always under the assumption (of course I can't prove it) that the engines affected were those convinently outputing just below the 100g CO2 mark (eg...99g on specs), back in the day where this would warrant £0 road tax. On the 2.0TDIs, none of them were in the above category. EDIT* Or more likely what Aardvark said so they could be class as Euro 5 category.
Although back to the point about Euro 6....I'm believe a 2013 2.0TDI would be only Euro 5. Please see brochure (assuming correct) here... http://www.seatpress.co.uk/doc/2169/20324817354e220f31db34.pdf
So yea, mine's was a 'dumb' diesel, it doesn't know the difference between real world and testing conditions
. I always always under the assumption (of course I can't prove it) that the engines affected were those convinently outputing just below the 100g CO2 mark (eg...99g on specs), back in the day where this would warrant £0 road tax. On the 2.0TDIs, none of them were in the above category. EDIT* Or more likely what Aardvark said so they could be class as Euro 5 category.
Although back to the point about Euro 6....I'm believe a 2013 2.0TDI would be only Euro 5. Please see brochure (assuming correct) here... http://www.seatpress.co.uk/doc/2169/20324817354e220f31db34.pdf
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Wow interesting reading...looking at the 184 in SC, 5dr or ST it is the same in that the 6 speed manual is EU5 +DPF and always the DSG is EU6 despite the DSG always having higher CO2/Km by about another 10 grams across all body styles.
If you look up the difference between the EU5 and EU6 technical expectations for any vehicle, there is a big reduction in NOX allowed moving from EU5 up to EU6 . The other technical specs talk about having a DPF
Diesel emissions (g/km)
Emission type EU5 (2011) EU6 (2014)
Carbon Monoxide 0.5 0.5
Nitrogen Oxides 0.18 0.08
Particulates 0.005 0.005
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