If turbo blown, will the car start?

[Seatmann]

It sounds like the engine isn't seized anyway which is good, you're going to need to start pulling things apart though. I would get the exhaust downpipe off for a start, take off the boost pipes to the turbo too and feel the shaft of the turbo. It could be that the turbo has choked up the intake stopping the car from starting, maybe a busted impeller etc.
You could pop off the rocker cover too and have a little look at the cam for anything obvious, it should show signs of oil starvation if that's the problem.
If that's ok I'd probably try a compression test, that would certainly show wether the engine is fubarred.

Check the asv is wide open too, the thing on the side of the egr valve.

Not sure what else for now but that should keep you going for now lol.

 

[Masterkm]

Boost pipes were taken off at the garage and loads of oil came out of the pipes and intercooler. Exhaust still needs to be cleaned out. Still hoping that the engine is fine and that it will just need a turbo etc.

The car is sitting at the garage now where the mechanic is going to do one more test on it to see if the engine is ok otherwise will have to hunt a new one down. Really gutted

 

[greyfloppyhat]

Thats the ASV and EGR not the throttle body. Don't know why he was checking for a load of oil in there, if you had a load up there you'd have a diesel runaway on your hands and you'd defiantly know about that.

Best place to start is as Seatmann said, check the turbine shaft for play and if it's clogged up etc. then report back here

 

[Masterkm]

Thats where the AA patrol was looking. The oil that came out was from where the pipe connects to the intercooler on both sides. By looking at where my new exhaust back box joins on, that joint was also covered in oil

Would the stated posts above stop the engine from starting then?

 

[Masterkm]

If the crankshaft in the engine had bent and the engine failed then wouldnt there have been a loud bang or knocking noise in the engine yesterday?

 

[Seatmann]

Maybe, the oil might be clogging something or the turbo and the exhaust too, no where to get air in or out. Also if the starter is toast that wont help as the PD needs to hit something like 280rpms to fire up.

 

[Masterkm]

The 2nd patrol who came out said that it was not the starter motor but the 1st guy did, now I dont know who is right. Its like the engine is trying to tick over slightly but not turning over. The mechanic said his going to drop the engine out tomorrow and remove the turbo also. I will go back tomorrow and tell him of this info and see what he says

 

[Seatmann]

So the engine's not turning over on the starter? That's bad

 

[Masterkm]

Well the one patrol said the starter had gone, the other said it was fine. Just hoping that the garage comes up with some good news tomorrow otherwise going to have to dig deep into my pockets to repair it

 

[big rich]

Drop the Dpf/cat off see if it starts, you don't have to remove it just slide it away.

 

[greyfloppyhat]

It sounds to me like the oil seals have blown in the turbo, and it's just poured all your oil out into the exhaust and the Intercooler. There's probably very little in the pipe to the ASV and EGR because it didn't have enough time to pull some up there.
You've probably had worn seals for a while which is why you had experience low oil in the past but now they've obviously given up.

I can't say for sure if your engine is ceased or not for obvious reasons , but being starved of oil will have taken some toll on it.

Your going to be looking at a new/recon turbo, then also engine work. If the engine is really bad it may be more cost effective to get an engine block with internals from a breakers with turbo included. I've no issues with turbos from breakers as long as you have someone in the know give them a good look over, and the car isn't there because of turbo issues obviously. Your injectors should be fine, as will your pipe work and intercooler(after a drain and clean). All of your wiring can be kept too

 

[Masterkm]

Well just visited the garage again, engine has started after he flushed the oil out and put some new oil in. Its going to need another turbo which will get fitted tomorrow.

The mechanic is going to work on the engine and clean out the rest today and should be up and running again in a few days hopefully

 

[greyfloppyhat]

Well just visited the garage again, engine has started after he flushed the oil out and put some new oil in. Its going to need another turbo which will get fitted tomorrow.

It's the best outcome you could of hoped for, glad to hear

pd150 turbo then? lol

 

[Masterkm]

Had a 140pd golf gt tdi available at my uncles garage but dont know if it will fit. May stick to original or get my brother to look into a pd150 one lol. Are costs roughly the same? Which turbos are likely to fit ie from what other cars?

 

[greyfloppyhat]

No pd140 is a 2 litre block it won't match up. Pd150 is essentially the same block, I'm pretty sure they will fit but may need a bit of work in regards to pipe work. Then you'd need to find pd150 injectors and a loom, then hello a whole load of power.......and bye bye clutch lol

I've been considering doing this if I decide to keep the leon for another year, I've got a pd150 head injectors, loom and all sitting in the garage. I just need to come across a cheap pd150 turbo for my experiment .....

 

[Masterkm]

No pd140 is a 2 litre block it won't match up. Pd150 is essentially the same block, I'm pretty sure they will fit but may need a bit of work in regards to pipe work. Then you'd need to find pd150 injectors and a loom, then hello a whole load of power.......and bye bye clutch lol

I've been considering doing this if I decide to keep the leon for another year, I've got a pd150 head injectors, loom and all sitting in the garage. I just need to come across a cheap pd150 turbo for my experiment .....

I think im going to keep it simple and get the PD105 turbo again, just want it back on the road in one piece. just have to wait now.

What things are going to need replacing along with turbo, oil feed pipe and oil filter? Or is this all?

Also how should it be driven with the new/recon turbo, shall i take it easy like normal around 1750-2000rpm gear changes?

 

[greyfloppyhat]

and a exhaust gaskets. Also might be worth getting some new clips and o-rings. Get a braided oil feed line rather than the OEM piece, its a pain to fit, and the braid one is much better. Dark side developments sell one.

Let the oil circulate it, so don't tear off immediately after starting the car, and don't suddenly turn the engine off if you've been doing some spirited driving, let it cool for a few minutes.

I'm not sure what the break in procedure is, probably is best to keep it easy for a few hundred miles.

 

[Masterkm]

Thanks greyfloppyhat. Will pass all this onto the garage and my bro whos going down to get the parts tomorrow. Will make sure they follow that recirculation procedure etc

When you say clips and o rings, which ones are they for? Need to pass this all onto the right people as Im going to be working and want to make sure they get the right parts

 

[greyfloppyhat]

I'm refering to the clips and o- ring on the pipe work going into the intercooler. They're not dear, a few quid at most and with them being pulled in and out by AA and the mechanic they've probaly got a bit knackered, which ain't good as they're far from great for sealing and holding the pipe in firmly when they're new.

It's not a vital part of the job, nor will anything be affected if you dont. But it will add 2 minutes onto the job to renew them. Pop out the pipe, slip the old o ring off, and new one one, coat with a bit of oil so it doesn't pinch, then seat the pipe in again and hold with a new clip

Last thing you want is the boost pipe popping off later down the line and thinking, great more turbo issues

 

[Masterkm]

One step ahead of you there mate lol as I had ordered a few last week from Dave to fix the boost leak this week only for the turbo to go on me on Sunday

Turbo should be removed today and new one fitted by tomorrow and hopefully get her back by tomorrow/Thursday latest.

The reason why the car would not start was due to it being clogged up with oil, the whole exhaust pipe looks like it was full and mayb the backbox is too, needs to be cleaned out. You guys were right as there was no air getting o the engine.

Still an expensive fix

Could all of this been affected cause of my remap?