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Idle Problems (ABF)

suj

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Jan 1, 2009
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well some of you may know about my stupid slam panel causing my rad top hose to come off, so i got a new rad hose, changed it.

but had no coolant, so drained out all the water and left it for like a week, then today i put water back in, revved it 1.5k for like 2 mins to warm it up, but it won't hold it's revs?

there is alot of smoke coming out the exhaust, now i dunno if it is cos it's damn cold, or if it is oil (maybe i am getting hell of alot paranoid), i checked the oil and it don't look mayo-y?

what could be causing this? i wanted to go back to brum today aswell?
please try and help me, i hope it's not expensive/not the HEAD!!!!!!
could it be a temp sensor or some kind of sensor?

thank you in advance!
 

suj

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Have you driven it? Got it up to temperature?

sorry forgot to state, i took it for a spin around the block, and when i got to traffic lights i had to press the accelerator or it would just die!

also there was alot of smoke from the back btw, just to let you guys know, the head gasket might of gone right?
 

M1KEH

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Oct 27, 2007
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Head gasket shouldnt go just overnight with no coolant in it. You need to get it properly up to temperature i think as it is very cold outside today, give it some beans and some redex and see what happens?
 

orangemuffin

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ABF's are pretty solid mate.

i drove mine 10 miles with no coolant or water in it once and it was okay.......

whats coolant did you use ?
 

suj

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Head gasket shouldnt go just overnight with no coolant in it. You need to get it properly up to temperature i think as it is very cold outside today, give it some beans and some redex and see what happens?

well wasn't overnight, was like a week with no coolant (but never drove the car) then today started it up, and it wouldn't hold its revs!
i let it warm up for ages, it got to the centre on the temp gauge!

then i took it for a spin, and it kep conking out!
 

suj

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ABF's are pretty solid mate.

i drove mine 10 miles with no coolant or water in it once and it was okay.......

whats coolant did you use ?

yeah i did the same before, but it has been very cold lately, and i let all the water out, but they may have been some left that froze?

i use g12 coolant (which is now topped up)
 

suj

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Jan 1, 2009
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also my breather pipe is ripped? would this affect anything?
what could it be? crank sensor, temp sensor? :( i need my baby back, gonna try and vagcom it asap!
 

M1KEH

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also my breather pipe is ripped? would this affect anything?
what could it be? crank sensor, temp sensor? :( i need my baby back, gonna try and vagcom it asap!
Tape up the breather pipe first i spose. If it's got to half way up the guage then it shouldnt just be steaming cause it's cold anymore. With a cold car take off the coolant cap and start the engine quickly see if the system if being pressurised by a leaking head gasket.
 

suj

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Tape up the breather pipe first i spose. If it's got to half way up the guage then it shouldnt just be steaming cause it's cold anymore. With a cold car take off the coolant cap and start the engine quickly see if the system if being pressurised by a leaking head gasket.

ok i will tape that up

sorry i dunno what you mean about the 2nd bit

my mate said as i have that stupidly massive oval magnex exhaust, that water could of got in as it has sat for a week and half? could this be true?
cos the smoke is white, not blue-y?
 

suj

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Jan 1, 2009
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sorry to hear your having probs mate! gutted for you, im sure its not as serious as u think, but i guess your like me, always assume the worst and then be happy when its something simple!

my ABS warning light came on today and i got my MOT due very soon!

thanks man, yeah better to think of the worst case scenario, then any lower is sorted lol

take the plug out off one of the wheels and bingo :p lol
 
thanks man, yeah better to think of the worst case scenario, then any lower is sorted lol

take the plug out off one of the wheels and bingo :p lol

I checked on the snap on diagnostic and it comes up with 00287 rear right speed sensor.

are you saying the light will come off if i unplug the sensor from under the rear seats??

I was talking to my VAG-GOD about your issue, and he says it sounds like Head Gasket :( , Could just be piss poor timing with your hose splitting etc.

If you need someone in birms to do a proper job in that case, let me know i can hook you up to a VAG Legend.
 

suj

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Jan 1, 2009
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I checked on the snap on diagnostic and it comes up with 00287 rear right speed sensor.

are you saying the light will come off if i unplug the sensor from under the rear seats??

I was talking to my VAG-GOD about your issue, and he says it sounds like Head Gasket :( , Could just be piss poor timing with your hose splitting etc.

If you need someone in birms to do a proper job in that case, let me know i can hook you up to a VAG Legend.

well my passenger front was dodgy, and MOT was due, so u pulled out the plug, as i didn't have time/money to fix it at that time, the light went off, then after i fixed it when funds allowed me to!


thanks alot man, i think i will most likely fix it myself (with my best mates help, he has every tool ever made, and is handy with a spanner too)

could i be cheeky and ask how much he'd charge to fix it? might as well get a quote, if it's not too bad i might get it done!
and where is this VAG-GOD, sounds awesome
thanks again mate!
 

M1KEH

M1KE
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I very much doubt your head gasket has gone, the engine was empty of water/coolant meaning there was nothing in there that would expand or break anything. If everything is the same you just changed the pipe and refilled with coolant i would check that all is good and then take if for a real thrash. See if it feels down on power etc.
 

suj

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Jan 1, 2009
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Birmingham
The guy is a legend- couldnt tell you myself about the quote, but can probably find out roughly how much labour cost if you sorted all the parts. But who knows, if the head might need skimming or things like that.

Have you got to the bottom of what it is yet? done a sniff test etc?

my guy is based not far from the Villa Ground.

really? well i might just try and do it myself, i know someone who will skim for cheap, then i'll most likely do all the work myself tbh

but i thought if you could get a quote just to see how much it'd cost would be cool, as i ain't got time atm!

but my uncle is back from india in a week this saturday, so might wait until then

I very much doubt your head gasket has gone, the engine was empty of water/coolant meaning there was nothing in there that would expand or break anything. If everything is the same you just changed the pipe and refilled with coolant i would check that all is good and then take if for a real thrash. See if it feels down on power etc.

well i took the water out, but some might have stayed in (as it has happened similar to my mate) so over the cold temps it could of froze, so when i did get upto temp causing the head to crack, i've also seen this happen to a mates old Polo

i'm just preparing for the worst tbh mate, i appreciate all the help

if the head has gone, it shouldn't cause the car not to hold revs right? would a ripped breather pipe cause that?
thanks :)
 

suj

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Jan 1, 2009
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Birmingham
depends which breather has come off.... If its a breather connected into the inlet manifold then yes it would.

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it's the pipe right of the dipstick (under the rad top hose going into the engine) you see that black box, where that leads to the engine

would that cause it? it's ripped like in a line (perpendicular to the clip holding it in)
 
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