FR Tdi 130 Vibration problem

[Triple D]

no worries mate, glad our advice has solved it for you. Another satisfied customer of scn

 

[Baz1]

I think its a problem with most FRs, mine does it too, its been in the garage to have the flywheel changed as they pointed it down to a faulty flywheel. It still does it so it didnt really help much.

Its not so bad anymore now that ive covered about 6k miles, but it used to shake the whole car at tickover - thats deffo NOT normal!!

SEAT customer service need to sort these probs out asap, seems theyre not too bothered after the sale eh?

 

[muddyboots]

just gave the sponge ago between the pipe and the fuel pump and took it for a quick blast and looks like its solved the problem. nice one

Just make sure it's well secured, you wouldn't want it coming loose and getting caught in the drivebelt

 

[orange]

Can you post a picture; I have the same problem, noise, rattle... (I don't understand anything about mechanic )...

 

[cheb]

Just make sure it's well secured, you wouldn't want it coming loose and getting caught in the drivebelt

its secure, but going to get the dealer to sort it out, theres no way im having a new car been padded with a sponge as it looks a mess so will see if they can do a better job on it.

 

[leerob]

Do you mean the entire car shudders or that there is something vibrating? If the car is shuddering, its probably only because the engine is rotating at the cars resonant (natural) frequency and the relatively stiff suspension isnt dampening it. My 1.2 did it, however my 1.9TDi did, now doesnt - this may be because mine is now bedded in a little better (58k Miles) and therefore turns over at a slightly different speed.
If it is a vibration, check for your strut brace fouling on the airbox, or the airbox fouling on something below (mine buzzes at 1100-1300 revs - very irritating but soon to be fixed)

The entire car shudders at idle, it seems to be linked with the engine revs, cos as you touch the throttle slightly it disappears. Got fed up of trying to get Seat to sort it there customer service is shocking. Also can anybody tell me how many miles they are getting to a tank in the FR 130 Tdi. I am geting about 380...is that about right??

 

[cheb]

took it to the dealers, they put a sponge as i did between the boost pipe and the fuel pump. i asked them to look at the gearstick knocking sound too while i was there, now its comming from the actual gear lever area, took it out for a ride with a guy and he noticed the sound, so left it over night with them, picked it up the following day and said they could find no fault and said the spings were to blame. i asked them to see if they would refund the money it cost me to put them back to standard if that was not the fault, as obviously it is isnt, then said do you want the guy to go back out with me again. said i aint wasting my derv and said will go else where. Doncaster stoneacre customer service is poor, cost a fortune in hire cars from them cos im either at work or at coll each day so need a car and still no further with the problem. not putting it back on standard spring as its going to be a waste of time and they will only find something else to blame it on, probably my tints will be the next thing for them to blame it on

the guy also said to expect rattle with it, its a diesel. how comes the deisel panda was rattle free that i had for a hire car - they talk out of there a**e.

sorry about the rant - better out than in tho sometimes.

 

[muddyboots]

leerob -> Mine had the lumpy idle too which disappeared with the slightest throttle touch, never did get to the bottom of it.

cheb -> Mine rattled from the gearlever too, at idle and when accelerating in 4th. The dealers couldn't find anything wrong with it (couldn't be arsed more like), so I pulled the gearlever gaitor off and had a look myself, it's play in the gearlever linkage just under the gaitor. I never fixed it though, just got in the habit of nudging the gearlever when necessary.

 

[Leigh15]

I've had a couple of gearstick areas rattles and vibrations -

One was caused by the insert in the top of the gearknob vibrating. One stealer refused to look at it, but another replaced the gearstick starightaway no problem.

The second which occured at idle and when accelerating under load eg. up a hill and then got worse and worse so that in the end just nudging the gear lever could start/stop it was caused by a dodgy gear housing - the gear linkage was vibrating against it. Again, one stealer 'couldn't hear it' and the second identified the problem within 5 seconds of hearing it and replaced under warrenty no problem.

 

[lukey]

mine vibrates at idle, i have to hold it still for a second and it goes away, its when i take it out of gear and it pops into neutral, then drrrrrrrrrrr until i hold it still, i can feel something knocking on it through the stick.

 

[Leigh15]

Sounds like the same thing I had - get the stealer to look at it - yours is brand new IIRC??

 

[lukey]

brand spanking yea, only 800 miles on it.
gonna have to see if i can find a better dealer than my local though for something "insignificant" like that, last car i bought from them had a scuff on the paint i said i wanted it polishing out and the CS said i was being pathetic

 

[stevie.w]

lol i thought i was the only one with the old rattly gear stick noise, when i start my car i have to give the gearstick a bit of a nudge to get rid of it.

 

[ibby-14]

have you checked the intercooler pipe isnt up against the fuel filter housing? That sorted mine, put some double sided tape between them.

 

[zach225]

i take it you realise this thread is 4 years old right?

 

[ibby-14]

Yeh, the 1.9 pd tdi ibiza has been around since 2002, 9years?
Common problem with the intercooler pipe or DMF.
Just trying to help, don't mean these problems don't still occur?

 

[krussel]

My FR tdi has shuddered on tickover from new, its about the only thing i cant stand about the car. Air con and rear heated screen helps for a while. Its so bloody annoying that there'es been a couple of times ive been tempted to chop the car in.

SEAT had it back 3 times and if anything made it worse The slightist touch of throttle smooths it out. Ive learned its to do with a weak fuel mixture at tickover and the engine is stuttering as its under fueled.

I ve not taken it to a diesel specialist myself by others have on the net and they could not fix it either. Replacing the DMF with a solid dont work either.

When i get the time in the summer iam going to look at making some sort of adjustable throttle stop for the pedal so i dont have to keep my foot on it at the lights.

 

[ibby-14]

Yeh mine does exactly the same, not from from cold but between warm and running temputure then it goes away, same issue with the air con, I just leave it on does it good anyways keeping it running.
So you said you have changed the fly wheel on yours?
Because on mine if you depress the clutch on tick over it goes away and when I have it on the lift at work you can hear it chattering on, all the usual signs of the DMF.
As for the under fueling I have herd about this so changed the temp sensor which has alot to do with the amount of fuel that is injected been hot or cold, but made no difference.
I have changed the egr valve, map sensor right pain to fit lol and the maf sensor, only thing am yet to look as it the fuel temp sensor and wiring loom to the injectors under the rocker box cover heard about that been an issue.

 

[krussel]

No ive not changed the DMF on mine but there has been a lot of activity over in the USA as it appears the problem effects all 1.9 tdi to some extent. One thread i rem did involve changing the flywheel but the problem continued.

Mine does the same as yours and when the temp gauge goes from 70-90 deg its at its worse. Dipping the clutch makes no diff on mine however.

The last time i took it to SEAT i spoke to a senior tech and off the record he told me that they could not cure the problem at all

 

[ibby-14]

Yeh I don't really wana spend anymore money on it, as I said just keep the air con switched on lol.