fr 170 superchips remap update

[jonnyash]

after having it done on friday overall very pleased in gear acceleration is unbelieveable! from 40 to 80 in forth is unreall . had a few niggles on saturday with it hesatating under acceleration have spoken to superchips who instantly asked could i take it up to their HQ and stick it on their rolling road to see what its doing! but have to say its settled down now, i went out for about 60 miles yesterday and it never missed a beat! just been out today for half an hour and still fine so have to see what friday brings on the RR.

 

[BanziBarn]

Nice to know they don't try and fob you off. Very tempted by this map!

 

[Michael B]

^^ Same here, want to get it done too.. Keep us updated with regards DPF etc..

Also, if something goes wrong in the engine and Seat wont stand over the car, I understand superchips will? <-- Invalidating the Seat warranty is the only thing holding me back at the moment!

Acceleration in 4th gear is impressive already, i can imagine what its like with a remap..

 

[jonnyash]

it pulls like 3rd use to! superchips will work along side seat if anything goes wrong and if its there fault they'll fix it

 

[BanziBarn]

it pulls like 3rd use to! superchips will work along side seat if anything goes wrong and if its there fault they'll fix it

I do wonder how easy this process would be though. I can imagine Seat noticing the map and then refusing to fix the car on the basis that the map has caused the fault - on the clutch for example, and then Superchips saying that I have to prove the map caused the damage and that the clutch is capable of the extra power and therefore it's a Seat issue.

By Superchips saying they have a warantee almosts admits that the map can cause damage to the car doesn't it?

 

[Ruddmeister]

By Superchips saying they have a warantee almosts admits that the map can cause damage to the car doesn't it?

Using that train of thought any warranty is an admission their maybe a future fault?.........which in a way is true because latent defects can occur with any product and however much R&D has been done there can always be issues later.

The idea with Superchips Warranty as I understand it is that it will pick up pretty much any shortfall from the OEM warranty, so people chipping and remapping newer cars have peace of mind that they are still covered. SEAT would probably void the warranty on the ECU (because Superchips have tampered with it) but experience tells us SEAT are happy to still cover the rest of the vehicle....clutch and other internals included.

You wouldn;t expect a Superchips Chip to void the warranty on your SEAT paintwork for example...

lots of tuners are struggling to map the 170TDi unit without replacing the physical chip which would help disguise the fact the car is remapped / chipped full stop......i'm sure that will change in due course.

I have no first hand experience of Superchips on diesel engines but I hope it's better than the chip for the 1.8T Golf I had done back in 2002 / 2003......which compared to my experiences with Revo / Forge was poor

 

[jonnyash]

ruddmeister
superchips are the only one to be able to do the map through the obd thats why i went for them so realisticly theres no physical evidence of them remapping other than its faster and when they plug it in for fault diagnostics it'll come up with an update available for my car which richard said if that happends and they revert the car back to standard he would remap free of charge ,but would have to drive to swindon to his home which to me is no problem as im only 40 mins away.im not far from you if you fancied seeing how well it does go would be happy to show!

 

[Ruddmeister]

Apologies thought it was a physical chip still

Remap via the diagnostics port will be the norm i'm sure when the other tuners catch up.

......im not far from you if you fancied seeing how well it does go would be happy to show!....

There was talk of a mini-meet in the area sometime which would be cool.........i'll PM you if it comes off

 

[BanziBarn]

Is a check for software updates routine on a service? It would be a bit annoying if you had to get the car re-remapped once a year after a service.

 

[jonnyash]

dont believe so but not certain guess they would only check if you complained of a problem

 

[erminio]

I have also chipped my FR,170bhp TDI with a JD chip.
It should get my to 200bhp/420nm, and it is indeed much faster

Haven't got it on the dyno yet, because i'am waiting for a full exhaust fitted without the DRF When the axhaust is installed and the custom remap for it i will run a dyno

The only thing a notice is on topspeed when the ambient temperature is reasonbly high ..., the last 5km/h on topspeed are going with a sort of jojo effect. I mean that it stop pulling..., start pulling again..., stop pulling, etc. We thing this is caused by the DRF getting to hot making the sensor restrict the boost pressure through the electronics, then it becames within the range, it pulls again, becomes to hot again, etc.

Hoppefully without the DRF this problem is gone

The problem with the cluch isn't only the amount of torque..., it's also the way the torque comes in. If it comes in with a bang then you could have problems with youre cluch and drivetrain., but when it comes in more gently (is possible with a good remap) then everything will be ok

 

[k4ith]

so the superchips remap is thru the OBD port? can they do a bluefin version yet? I prefer switchable to permanent as i can revert back to OEM for servicing/warranty work etc.

 

[Michael B]

^^ Yeah, how is it switchable though? Surely they will see the switch?!

 

[Viking]

ruddmeister
superchips are the only one to be able to do the map through the obd

Not quite true. Other companies have also cracked it. This company for example.

 

[Fishy]

Checking on the Superchips website, the bluefin is an option.

Fish

 

[Viking]

No Bluefin option on the 170 tdi engine with Superchips.

 

[redrobo150]

ruddmeister
superchips are the only one to be able to do the map through the obd thats why i went for them so realisticly theres no physical evidence of them remapping other than its faster and when they plug it in for fault diagnostics it'll come up with an update available for my car which richard said if that happends and they revert the car back to standard he would remap free of charge ,but would have to drive to swindon to his home which to me is no problem as im only 40 mins away.im not far from you if you fancied seeing how well it does go would be happy to show!

had my fr tdi chipped by chip tunning ,using the rica chip for over 5months now done 6000 miles with no problem no miss fires or any other gremlins

200 bhp at the fly wheel was achieved and 419 torque on the free r/r
they also will return to factory set up if any thing goes wrong and repair

very in pressed indeed with results

 

[jonnyash]

bit of an update!
took the car to superchips and found out what was wrong my car had a differant sofeware on it to their seat leon they run the car on the dyno and was dropping boost at around 3800 revs so only acheiving 199 bhp but a massive increase upto that point . have left the car with them to sort and they very kindly gave me there golf edition 30 gti remapped to 307 bhp which is awsome this is really the only word to describe it so not too bothered playing in that untill mine is sorted which should be mondayevening

 

[jonnyash]

Not quite true. Other companies have also cracked it. This company for example.

thats interesting as the owner told me how they had to do it and it wasnt through the obd ,this was around 5 to 6 weeks ago and havnt spoke since so apologies if the situation has changed

 

[Michael B]

bit of an update!
took the car to superchips and found out what was wrong my car had a differant sofeware on it to their seat leon they run the car on the dyno and was dropping boost at around 3800 revs so only acheiving 199 bhp but a massive increase upto that point . have left the car with them to sort and they very kindly gave me there golf edition 30 gti remapped to 307 bhp which is awsome this is really the only word to describe it so not too bothered playing in that untill mine is sorted which should be mondayevening

WOW awesome, lol, id nearly leave my car in if I thought they were lending me that for a few days.. result!