Fastest 0-60 in a chipped cupra tdi?

[GlanzaV]

If yours is doing 2 mph more on the trap speed, doesn't necessarily mean that it will be just as quick 0-60 mate.

Quarter mile runs are more complicated than they seem. Trap speed tells you a lot about a cars acceleration! ET tells you how well it puts the power down!

To try and explain;

The distance is fixed (quarter mile) so the speed you achieve in that qtm is based on how fast you can accelerate in that distance. To expand - Two cars might achieve the same ET 15sec say, though the first Traps 110mph and the other 90mph... You could argue the first car is "quicker" as it can accelerate to a greater speed in the same distance, but due to traction, gear changes etc they achieve the same result... In real life, unless you're a traffic light warrior, being able to improve your trap speed is probably more important.

 

[Dan1.6]

Mines 240 and approx 380/90lbft and with a full interior, spare etc the best mines managed was a 6.1 0-60 (tho i could do with trying a few 2nd gear starts

so im sorry but i doubt a cupra would be quicker than 6.5

as said above its all about the in gear acceleration

its quicker i saw it done in 5 at bruntington

http://www.theresults.co.uk/theresults/Results/2009/Motorsport/GTIInternational_0628_0to60.pdf page 5 on there mate

 

[AndrewJB]

i dont see how 80kgs could be taken off the weight of a car just with the door cards and the plastic dash mate, i had to take mine out of the mk2 earlier this year and probs weighted in more like 10-15kgs and thats probs being a wimp after ripping it all out!

right tho with 60's times come down to weight more so than power with like none super car style power and that, that guys car must weight less than standard obv, but id cry foul that 60 time isnt right or sumet, no way a 5.0 dead sorry

http://www.theresults.co.uk/theresults/Results/2009/Motorsport/GTIInternational_0628_0to60.pdf


Its in black and white , Page 5 , Diesel class T.SPARK 5.0 Seconds

There was also 500-1000 people who witnessed it on the day

 

[chispadete]

There's a little more than just a couple of door cards and a bit of plastic mate..
Rear seats
All the Carpets
Sound proffing
dash
door cards
centre console
stereo
glove box

and god knows what else I have missed. I rememeber weighing the back seats of my LCR when I took them out and they were over 20kgs all together..
Ok it might not be as much as 80 kgs, but I bet it isn't to far off and will be a lot more than 15-20kgs. Plus even if it were 60-70kgs, on a car that weighs 1100-1200kgs, it will make a noticable difference, trust me.. Equivlent to an extra 10-15bhp on that car..

sorry my apologies i read it as in the difference was 80kgs between both of the cars, but that guy who posted mentioned he has everything out of the rear too, so differnece is just at the front i guess.

as for the black and white, i could throw up any old time on a random website! i dont wanna flame the time but how accurate are show times anyway?

 

[Dan1.6]

they are fairly accurate otherwise they wouldn't do them

 

[antnee]

they are fairly accurate otherwise they wouldn't do them

Postable equipment can never be that accurate, as things can move easily

 

[DIFT]

Hello dift,
Is your focus rs better than your cupra? Is the beeza better on fuel?

Better than the Cupra??? errr, more fun when your foot is to the floor, plus it sounds like a proper rally car, with its pops and bangs (you'd never get that in a sooty mobile).

Better on fuel.... errrr, nope (~48MPG for the Ibiza, compared to 23-24 for the RS )
Petrol is killing me a little.

Would I have my old Ibiza back? In a heart beat! It was a lovely car, dont underestimate how good a properly setup Mk4 Cupra TDI is.

Im happy with the Focus at the moment, but If I saw my old car up for sale again, I would have a long hard think!

I have some more go faster parts coming for the focus, so hopefully it'll be a bit quicker still

 

[DIFT]

Postable equipment can never be that accurate, as things can move easily

Whilst never 100% accurate, they wont be far off... were talking +/- .10's of a second!

Im sure a show as big as GTI International would make sure its margin of error was as small as humanly possible!

 

[rocky2008]

The in-gear times are the important ones!

whats ingear times? lol

 

[antnee]

whats ingear times? lol

How long you can stay ingear, as thats when you are accelerating. Shifting loses time

 

[rocky2008]

ah, i get you now, good point

 

[CrossyR]

Today i did a 6.4 at York Dragstrip and a 14.9 quarter mile. Thats with my Sport mapped to 177bhp/315ftlbs. I also stripped the rear. No door cards, seatbelts, seats, spare wheel out. Was impressed tbh. gave a Type R and a 2.8 Capri the big licks

 

[chispadete]

14.9 is ok, ive seen tdi's with a little less bhp and alot less torque with less weight saving manage 14.7-14.9's before mind

 

[dervpower]

Today i did a 6.4 at York Dragstrip and a 14.9 quarter mile. Thats with my Sport mapped to 177bhp/315ftlbs. I also stripped the rear. No door cards, seatbelts, seats, spare wheel out. Was impressed tbh. gave a Type R and a 2.8 Capri the big licks

Similar spec to mine. Well couple more bhp and torque, but still, that's cool!

 

[DIFT]

14.9 is ok, ive seen tdi's with a little less bhp and alot less torque with less weight saving manage 14.7-14.9's before mind

14.9 is GOOD, ive seen TDI's with a lot more BHP and alot more torque manage no way near 14.7-14.9's.

Im poo at the quarter mile, some people have the knack... others dont. Im sure if you really wanted, you could do a full bore 2nd gear start and have an awesome time... but whose going to subject their car to that? I can think of only a few.

 

[antnee]

As Tom. will confirm, Santa Pod is too grippy for stage3 hybrid TDi's to get good times as you can't do 2nd gear launches

 

[Tom.]

As Tom. will confirm, Santa Pod is too grippy for stage3 hybrid TDi's to get good times as you can't do 2nd gear launches

Personally didnt launch in second at pod, but know T.Spark tried a few

With tyre pressures at 20 PSi yes it was too grippy, causing his car to bog down.On his last run of the day, he tried again, with more success, due to track temperature going down, taking the grip levels with it.

I tried a 2nd gear launch at york, but made the mistake of having one wheel on the real grippy stuff, and one just off it. Due to not having a torque biasing diff, it just spun the wheel on the less grippy surface, and I got a crap start.

 

[Ben CTR]

14.9 is GOOD, ive seen TDI's with a lot more BHP and alot more torque manage no way near 14.7-14.9's.

Im poo at the quarter mile, some people have the knack... others dont. Im sure if you really wanted, you could do a full bore 2nd gear start and have an awesome time... but whose going to subject their car to that? I can think of only a few.

What RS have you got now mate? New or old?

 

[chispadete]

14.9 is GOOD, ive seen TDI's with a lot more BHP and alot more torque manage no way near 14.7-14.9's.

14.9 is OK , ive seen TDI's with less power, more weight manage better is all I said

 

[DIFT]

What RS have you got now mate? New or old?

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=222259

Ive got the old one Ben. Couldn't spunk >£25k on a hatchback (and then have to modify it further to get the car I wanted!). I prefer the old one... a bit more raw.

14.9 is OK , ive seen TDI's with less power, more weight manage better is all I said

I got a 14.5 once... (im sure I picked up the wrong slip), but all the rest I ever got were 15+ seconds ( I was too nice to my old car). Plus I'm poo at the 1/4 mile.