Exeo Vs Vauxhall Insignia

Dark Andrew

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Hi, I've been given a Vauxhall Insignia while my Exeo is being repaired, so I thought I'd take the opportunity to do a side-by-side comparison of the two:

Comfort and Ride - Both cars are on 45 profile tyres so we're comparing them fairly. The Insignia softens the bumps in the road better than the Exeo but is less well damped, the effect is that although bumps are less jarring the car does tend to bounce more - something that my six year old daughter made comment on. Both cars do a decent job of controlling body roll and neither is better than the other in this respect. Road noise, though, in the Insignia is noticeably louder than the Exeo. The cabin in the Insignia has more knee room for the driver however the smaller steering wheel and overly sculpted seats force you into a driving position that makes you feel as though your upper body actually has less room (and on the subject of steering, the steering on the Insignia is much lighter and gives the driver almost no feedback). Rear occupants also get more leg room but my daughter found the higher window line gave an impression of having less room overall.

Engine and Gearbox - The engine is fairly quiet for a diesel, about the same as the Exeo's, however it has a much narrower power band and feels much more diesel-like than the CR engine in the Exeo which is actually quite petrol-like in terms of its wide, linear power delivery. The clutch in the Insignia is much lighter and bites more progressively than the Exeo's which is a bit of an on/off switch by comparison, however, I'm not convinced that my Exeo's clutch is working as it should and was due to have it looked at this week (until someone drove into the side of my car!). The gearbox on the Insignia is horrible! It's clunky, stiff and has a very long throw - making changing gear quite an effort, the Exeo's gear box by comparison feels much slicker and precise.

Practicality - The Insignia's boot is huge and very usable (although there is some intrusion into the boot space by the rear suspension), the Exeo's by comparison is a bit smaller but is square and dead flat with no intrusions from the side or from underneath. The side mirrors on the Insignia are better positioned and offer a better view than the Exeo but the rear view mirror is all but useless as the narrow, curved rear window seriously limits what you can see in it. The shape of the rear also makes it more difficult to judge the postion of the Insignia's rear bumper when reversing and is not helped by the lack of parking sensors.

Overall - Both cars have their merits and limitations: The Insignia has more space but paradoxically feels more closed in than the Exeo due to its higher window line, driving position and cluttered cabin layout. The Insignia softens road imperfections but is more bouncy due its poorer damping. Ultimately I still prefer the Exeo as it is much better to drive, feeling more direct and precise than the Insignia which feels quite detached by comparison.
 

Dave_

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I'll go along with that - had a 160hp Insignia on demo a while ago. Gearbox is terrible. Engine was really impressive.

There's more knee room in the front of my Fabia than the Exeo...!
 

julianat57

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Jun 19, 2010
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Hi, I've been given a Vauxhall Insignia while my Exeo is being repaired, so I thought I'd take the opportunity to do a side-by-side comparison of the two:

Comfort and Ride - Both cars are on 45 profile tyres so we're comparing them fairly. The Insignia softens the bumps in the road better than the Exeo but is less well damped, the effect is that although bumps are less jarring the car does tend to bounce more - something that my six year old daughter made comment on. Both cars do a decent job of controlling body roll and neither is better than the other in this respect. Road noise, though, in the Insignia is noticeably louder than the Exeo. The cabin in the Insignia has more knee room for the driver however the smaller steering wheel and overly sculpted seats force you into a driving position that makes you feel as though your upper body actually has less room (and on the subject of steering, the steering on the Insignia is much lighter and gives the driver almost no feedback). Rear occupants also get more leg room but my daughter found the higher window line gave an impression of having less room overall.

Engine and Gearbox - The engine is fairly quiet for a diesel, about the same as the Exeo's, however it has a much narrower power band and feels much more diesel-like than the CR engine in the Exeo which is actually quite petrol-like in terms of its wide, linear power delivery. The clutch in the Insignia is much lighter and bites more progressively than the Exeo's which is a bit of an on/off switch by comparison, however, I'm not convinced that my Exeo's clutch is working as it should and was due to have it looked at this week (until someone drove into the side of my car!). The gearbox on the Insignia is horrible! It's clunky, stiff and has a very long throw - making changing gear quite an effort, the Exeo's gear box by comparison feels much slicker and precise.

Practicality - The Insignia's boot is huge and very usable (although there is some intrusion into the boot space by the rear suspension), the Exeo's by comparison is a bit smaller but is square and dead flat with no intrusions from the side or from underneath. The side mirrors on the Insignia are better positioned and offer a better view than the Exeo but the rear view mirror is all but useless as the narrow, curved rear window seriously limits what you can see in it. The shape of the rear also makes it more difficult to judge the postion of the Insignia's rear bumper when reversing and is not helped by the lack of parking sensors.

Overall - Both cars have their merits and limitations: The Insignia has more space but paradoxically feels more closed in than the Exeo due to its higher window line, driving position and cluttered cabin layout. The Insignia softens road imperfections but is more bouncy due its poorer damping. Ultimately I still prefer the Exeo as it is much better to drive, feeling more direct and precise than the Insignia which feels quite detached by comparison.
Hi, would be interested to know the tyres fitted to these two cars. Have just fitted some Michelin Primacy 3's all round on my Exeo ST SE and noticing a very different ride in comparison with the Brisgestones they replaced, all for the better so far and hoping they last better than 11,800 miles! Thanks for very interesting comparison, never been a Vauxhall fan and you give several reasons why I don't wish to change my opinion....Julian
 

ozz

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Oct 21, 2012
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Prior to the exeo I had two insignias on long term loan, along with a couple of Mondeos.
There is more room for the driver and passengers in the Insignia. I used to struggle to stay comfortable in the insignia for longer journeys, but a friend tells me his seat bedded in after 20k miles - just when I gave mine back :-/ Fuel economy was good, although not as good as the very optimistic computer was telling me,55-60mpg(163 engine, 80 on motorway mainly). The last one I had was white with 20" wheels.......still not jarring even with them bad boys on. High speed handling was good, but understeer on lower speed stuff was an issue.
Comparing apples and oranges though really.
It did make me think about leasing an astra but went to the VX dealer and got treated like poo, so binned off that idea.
 
my company has insignias as standard - but I took the cash when I arrived and kept the exeo. I am glad I did I am regularly doing 550mile round trips every week where in the insignia my back goes off after and hour and a half - I can do one long run of 3.5 hours in the exeo and still feel relatively good (and I do suffer from a bad back). My issue with Vauxhalls are the niggly faults which dont seem to be as common on the exeo - I just think the VW group have got their act together interms of quality and reliability accross their brands that make it worth the difference of moving "up" from Ford/Vauxhall.
 

Dark Andrew

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Jan 25, 2011
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Hi, would be interested to know the tyres fitted to these two cars. Have just fitted some Michelin Primacy 3's all round on my Exeo ST SE and noticing a very different ride in comparison with the Brisgestones they replaced, all for the better so far and hoping they last better than 11,800 miles! Thanks for very interesting comparison, never been a Vauxhall fan and you give several reasons why I don't wish to change my opinion....Julian

I've just had a look at the sidewalls and each wheel has a different tyre on it, ranging from Conti SportContact to some budget brand I've never heard of before.
 

Dark Andrew

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Jan 25, 2011
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my company has insignias as standard - but I took the cash when I arrived and kept the exeo. I am glad I did I am regularly doing 550mile round trips every week where in the insignia my back goes off after and hour and a half - I can do one long run of 3.5 hours in the exeo and still feel relatively good (and I do suffer from a bad back). My issue with Vauxhalls are the niggly faults which dont seem to be as common on the exeo - I just think the VW group have got their act together interms of quality and reliability accross their brands that make it worth the difference of moving "up" from Ford/Vauxhall.

Another issue I've found with the Insignia is that it appears that during the conversion from a car designed for left-hand drive to right-hand drive the pedal layout seems to have suffered so that you have to twist your leg to apply the brake pedal. This seems to be quite a common issue these days and is often discussed on A4 B8 forums.
 
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ozz

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Oct 21, 2012
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Another issue I've found with the Insignia is that it appears that during the conversion from a car designed for left-hand drive to right-hand drive the pedal layout seems to have suffered so that you have to twist your leg to apply the brake pedal. This seems to be quite a common issue these days and is often discussed on A4 B8 forums.

I find in the Exeo in traffic the underside of my right thigh aches as it is pushing against the rh seat bolster. I am 6'3" and I'm hoping it softens up soon...Maybe the leather is keeping it a bit stiffer than cloth would.
 

Dark Andrew

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Well my car is ready and the Insignia is going back tomorrow. So what are my thoughts of the Insignia after 3 weeks?

The engine has really impressed me, it's got loads (and I mean LOADS) of grunt and is also very quiet and smooth; 1-nil to the Insignia.

After a while I have managed to find a fairly comfortable driving position in the Insignia although I'm still having to twist my right leg round a little to compensate for the pedal offset; 1-1

The rear visibility in the Insignia is awful and the side mirrors (despite my initial impression) are just as useless; 2-1 to the Exeo

The Insignia's cabin is nice and modern but the wrap-around door handles are impractical and the bright red screens on the dash not only blind you at night but reflect quite distractingly on the windscreen; 3-1 to the Exeo

The ride in the Insignia is smoother than the Exeo, turning even the harshest of potholes into nothing more jarring than a little bump; 3-2 to Exeo

But there is absolutely no feedback to the driver through the steering wheel or the "seat of your pants" - you feel completely removed and detached from the driving experience; 4-2 to the Exeo

The Insignia is much roomier in the back, in the boot and around the drivers knees; 4-3 to the Exeo

That's about it really, both cars have their merits - I'd say the Insignia is more comfortable for passengers with its more comfortable ride and super smooth engine (it's a shame that so many car makers can't sort out the pedals though) and is more practical as a family car but the Exeo is far more fun to drive and (despite the hand brake banging on the arm rest and the driver's left knee banging against the centre console) has a better laid out cabin.

So if I was going to choose one or the other to buy would I now opt for the Insignia instead (having lived with it for 3 weeks?). No. The Insignia may have some advantages but it also has a £9k premium over the Exeo (when I got my Exeo SEAT were doing the no VAT offer on it - but even without that, the equivalent Insignia is still £5k more than the Exeo) and it shouldn't be forgotten that actually the Exeo also has some advantages of the Insignia. The bottom line is that I prefer the Exeo but if I did want the benefits that the Insignia offers I'd probably buy a Mondeo instead!
 
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