DQ200 upgrade?

[Kryton]

Ok cool so in theory I could buy a 1.4 250 box & swap everything over? If that’s the case then I will keep all my parts for a rainy day

 

[Bluepower]

Yes, check the link I mentioned for the right gearbox codes that can be sourced

 

[Kryton]

Ok thanks for the link & your help. I’m keen to get it back asap as dead on mates ramp plus need to run engine in before next track day so will deal with the gearbox next year. At least I’ve got uprated clutch & diff turning up for the 200 so hopefully won’t go sideways lol

 

[Bluepower]

If you do get up to it, can you make detailed notes and pictures of the wiring connector changes?

 

[Kryton]

Yeah sure. Wiring is easy I believe as it’s the same, just a different connector. Only difference is if you want to retrofit the diff as you need steering harness

 

[Mo_86]

I have a 2019 2L TSI dsg, is this a 200 or 250?

 

[Bluepower]

every 2.0 has either a DQ250 (if 6-speed) or DQ381 (if 7speed)

 

[kessss]

drive-shafts(??) - YES
starter motor mated to the chosen gearbox - Yes

Hi, I am new to the forum and planning on doing the same DQ200 to DQ250 swap on a 1.8 TSI engine.
I have figured out all the correct parts so far but can't find the correct starter motor needed. My car doesn't have auto start stop feature and I have seen that starters are of two types, either with auto start stop or without. The DQ250 car from which I got the box has auto start stop. Hence I am having problems on finalising the correct starter motor my car needs. So which starter did you end up with? Can you share the part number or any other valuable insights?
Also did you change both left and right drive shafts or only left?

 

[Bluepower]

Hi, I am new to the forum and planning on doing the same DQ200 to DQ250 swap on a 1.8 TSI engine.
I have figured out all the correct parts so far but can't find the correct starter motor needed. My car doesn't have auto start stop feature and I have seen that starters are of two types, either with auto start stop or without. The DQ250 car from which I got the box has auto start stop. Hence I am having problems on finalising the correct starter motor my car needs. So which starter did you end up with? Can you share the part number or any other valuable insights?
Also did you change both left and right drive shafts or only left?

Change both driveshafts. And you can use the starter from the donor, it will just not be used as start-stop

Please keep us updated on your progress! (with pictures ofcourse )

 

[kessss]

Change both driveshafts. And you can use the starter from the donor, it will just not be used as start-stop

Please keep us updated on your progress! (with pictures ofcourse )

Thanks man! Will update the thread after I’m done with it.

 

[Aleks626]

I'm literally doing this at the moment - I'm documenting it in the readers ride section on here.

DQ250 upgrade isn't hard if you can get the parts together. You can also add in the VAQ differential then if you get a gearbox from a Cupra or GTI with Performance Pack.

I've put a Cupra engine in my FR so slightly different, but I've left the full stock FR 1.8TSI loom installed, and added into it.

You're pretty much bang on with what you'll need:

different flywheel- YES
DSG gearbox - YES
drive-shafts(??) - YES
starter motor mated to the chosen gearbox - Yes
shifter cable(?) - No the shifter can stay stock, I just had to change the end connector on it (2 minute job).
mechatronic connector - Yes, easily available online with pins.
DSG coolant lines - YES
Coding - YES - if you don't bother with the VAQ differential, then the coding is simple, there's a byte somewhere that says 6 speed box installed or 7 speed. Think it may have been for the Instruments. I'll be able to confirm this all if you do decide to do this.

You also need the DSG engine mount (ideally) as it has 3 bolts holding onto the box rather than 2 from the DQ200. The DQ200 mount will fit but won't be as strong with only 2 bolts. Not sure how much of a real world problem this really is.

The wiring is easy, there are 9 pins on both DQ200 and DQ250, so the connector just needs swapping and re-pinning.

If you get a DSG box from an MQB car, rather than an older DQ250, they have an immobiliser, so you'll need to get it de-immobilised. This can be done but as the Mechatronics is in the gearbox you'd have to either take the mechatronics out and send it somewhere, or get someone to come to you and do it directly through the DQ250 connector.

DQ200 is the worst bit about the 1.8TSI, so if you can upgrade to the DQ250, then defo go IS38. The 1.8TSI motor is very good, and can easily make over 370BHP with bolt on parts. Look at Polo GTI tuning as they use the same 1.8 TSI EA888.3 motors.

Bro can you tell me parts that i need please i wanna upgrade mine