Cupra wheel hop, sorted...

[Kraken]

Of course you do each dealer has a parts department, will have to probably order them in though.

TPS will have them on the shelf.

Well, you would know . Never knew you could do that, will have to ask them.

Is that trade parts specialist btw? What part number am I after? I've looked all over the site and can't find anything named subframe bolt or whatever, what is the actual exact name and part number of what I want? Because if i do need to get one from SEAT i am going to need the right one.

 

[Trettiosjuan]

You're not supposed to know
They will look it up for you...

 

[Kraken]

You're not supposed to know
They will look it up for you...

Honestly...would you trust them to get the right thing? I had more enough trouble when ordering my car trying to tell them I wanted a 1.8 TSI Manual, and not a 1.4, not a DSG, not an ST. That might of just been thiso ne guy, but still, I prefer to be in control of what i need and what I don't .

Suppose I can message the service manager bloke at this new branch whose been quite good, will just have to be as clear as possible.

I just don't want any of these "why would you want one?" or "what are you going to do with a spare?" or "why are you fiddling around with that?" sort of questions I used to get when doing stuff to cars in the past...how about, mind your own sodding business! So is SEAT are gonna be like that, I'd rather just know the part number myself and source it myself.

 

[JACUPRA280]

Honestly...would you trust them to get the right thing? I had more enough trouble when ordering my car trying to tell them I wanted a 1.8 TSI Manual, and not a 1.4, not a DSG, not an ST. That might of just been thiso ne guy, but still, I prefer to be in control of what i need and what I don't .

Suppose I can message the service manager bloke at this new branch whose been quite good, will just have to be as clear as possible.

I just don't want any of these "why would you want one?" or "what are you going to do with a spare?" or "why are you fiddling around with that?" sort of questions I used to get when doing stuff to cars in the past...how about, mind your own sodding business! So is SEAT are gonna be like that, I'd rather just know the part number myself and source it myself.

+1 on that. I can't stand people asking questions about what I want to buy. Halfrauds are the worst. I needed some mineral spirit recently and when I asked where it was, I was asked "What do you want to do with mineral spirit?" - he didn't even answer the bloody question.

 

[Kraken]

+1 on that. I can't stand people asking questions about what I want to buy. Halfrauds are the worst. I needed some mineral spirit recently and when I asked where it was, I was asked "What do you want to do with mineral spirit?" - he didn't even answer the bloody question.

I have literally just wrang them up now and they have asked the same questions "why do you want one? What are doing fiddling with it?" and then "unless it's broken/snapped by usual means or distress under no fault of your own, we can't tell you, you'd have to bring it in, we look at it, bill you for the time then only then can we perhaps get a bolt out to you in a few weeks but we don't provide spares"

Don't provide spares? Bill me for their "time" to look at a bolt? Wtf

Maybe I should just walk in there and demand they allow me purchase a spare, asbolutely ludicrous, i doubt this person really knows what is going on as she wouldn't transfer me over without "valid reason"

Please someone just tell me the part number here and where I can get one...

EDIT

Think i got it, N91201001. Thank you awesomeGTI lol.

 

[Trettiosjuan]

There are some online catalogs, oemepc, realoem, etka, have a search.

If you find it, you could probably pick it up the same part up at an Audi or VW garage. Over here one can call the central spare part phonedesk, say the partnumber and they tell you what dealer has it in stock.

Good luck

 

[Kraken]

Contacted a Stoneacre close to me, which I completely forgot was a thing you could do, they found the part I wanted, will have it in for tomorrow and will cost me about £6 which is cheaper than anywhere else i've seen including the delivery! Sorted, didn't expect them to be so helpful and prompt but hey there ya go, sorted! .

Apologies for derailing this thread xD.

 

[Kraken]

There are some online catalogs, oemepc, realoem, etka, have a search.

If you find it, you could probably pick it up the same part up at an Audi or VW garage. Over here one can call the central spare part phonedesk, say the partnumber and they tell you what dealer has it in stock.

Good luck

Hey, so, guess what lol. Thought i'd remove my insert and...it's bent a little bit, was wondering why the **** it was so hard to remvoe and it's bent xD

I never thought my cars power would bend the thing after a couple of weeks lol, i dunno how...i mean, i get it's all the power on the bit of metal at the front but seriously that must be so much force! It's not super bent like but i'm not putting it back in...jeez, oh well, will see if i can get a refund somehow., with only pushing 260nm of torque i'd of thought it would be fine, clearly not xD

Can i ask, powerflex, which one did you go for in the end?

Also, what is the difference between the "black series" track insert: https://www.powerflex.co.uk/black-s.../Lower+Engine+Mount+(Large)+Insert/12385.html

And the purple "track insert": https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-se...ine+Mount+(Large)+Insert+Track+Use/12390.html

?? I thought the purple was the track insert, but the black series seems to be even more trakc focused. Which one do you reckon I should get for a similar feel to the 034?

I would assume, at least in writing, the black series is the hardest, most rigid version of the bush, even more so than the "track" purple one, so, i may go for that if it's very similar to the 034, but then again, i don't want it rattle mode stiff like a race car so perhaps the purple track series version would suit better, i have no idea how stiff, "stiff" is in this case lol with urethene inserts.

 

[kiddo]

You've got me worried now. Any long term users of 034 dog bone mount insert in a cupra checked their mounts since installing?

 

[Trettiosjuan]

Don't worry too much as they can not bent too much but as I said before, it does reduce their effectiveness as there will be a gap now.

I find the Powerflex track (purple) version perfectly liveable, I do have a manual so I can modulate the clutch/throttle to avoid any disturbing vibrations during reversing especially.

 

[Kraken]

Don't worry too much as they can not bent too much but as I said before, it does reduce their effectiveness as there will be a gap now.

I find the Powerflex track version perfectly liveable, I do have a manual so I can modulate the clutch/throttle to avoid any disturbing vibrations during reversing especially.

So you have the purple one, as opposed to the black track series...black one? Lol.

May get the black one actually as surely it would no way be anywhere near as harsh as a metal insert but they again...maybe it will.

I'd like to know if anyone has the black series insert to give some feedback though .

 

[Trettiosjuan]

Take the regular one for the FR. Maybe purple. Black is if you don't care about comfort, I suspect you do...

 

[Kraken]

Take the regular one for the FR. Maybe purple. Black is if you don't care about comfort, I suspect you do...

Haha, it depends on how severe it is versus a metal insert . I'll go for purple one version 2 PFF85-832P for mine and fit it after my service and report back. Kinda gutted about the 034, it's not "split" bent, but it's bent enough that there is no way i'm going to bother trying to insert it back in as it simply won't fly.

Gonna try to plead with awesomegti for a refund and report this to 034 Motorsport directly and ask them wtf is going on as just today, a friends 1.4 125 has also bent after a couple months and he certainly doesn't drive it as hard as i do my mine at times, it's simply not strong enough which kinda sucks, it's expect it not to be able to handle near 400hp/TQ but only at 200nm for his i am really quite surprised, that and a whole 55 less HP from mine stock.

BTW, torque setting for Powerflex insert? 034 states 130nm so i wonder if it's the same for powerflex.

 

[Kraken]

Initial feedback on purple powerflex insert.

Slick shifts as always with these inserts, feels about the same as the 034 insert, wheel hop again impossible in dry, it's not been wet for YONKS so that remains to be seen, feels as tight as the 034 which is nice, tougher to install, needed a bit of elbow grease almost literally, thankfull, provided with product.

So that's the good parts, now onto the preferential differences or in my eyes, the more negative parts for me personally.

The idle vibration is considerable, for seemingly no real benefit, it does not need to vibrate like it is and i have no idea why, the insert is flush and fits like a glove, but the idle vibration seems to be too noticable after about a week.

AC vibration is ridiculous, turn on "rattle mode" it may as well be lol! The 034 did none of this, on or off or idle no NVH at all, so again i find this odd.

Another down side, which surprised me considering the apparent higher harshness as compared to the 034 insert is the engine note is NOT any louder, which is a real let down for me as with the added NVH (like i originally had with WRONG 034 insert, which made the engine sound kick ass) i thought it would be as loud if not louder than my correct version 2 034 insert i've been running for 2 weeks up to this insert. If anything...now i don't know how this is possible, but it actually sounds QUIETER on hard throttle compared to no insert at all which is...mindboggling. I should add no NVH when you are on the go, perfectly fine >900 rpm.

So overall, we have a softer (harsher?) insert over the 034, which has terrible AC on NVH, mildly annoying idle NVH, moderately annoying reverse NVH, with all the same to-the-floor improvements as the 034 insert, 0 wheel hop, sharper shifts, less slop in gears, but lacking in a louder engine note and the "tightness" that the 034 had.

Colour me surpised. I'll give it a full go though, i'll go the whole 2 weeks and see if it settles down but i miss the louder engine note, the tighter feel of gears and the settled idle. I know it's a track insert (but so is the 034 insert...so...wut?), but anything above 900rpm is perfect, no NVH and driving around normally is completely fine it's just a shame that for me, i was expecting more from it. May well go back to the 034 as apparently, i've learnt it's SUPPOSED to bend and form a "mold" to the mount to accomodate the OEM unit as 034 recently explained in an email to me when i forwarded my concerns which actually makes sense.

They even said "if it's not formed it's mold we'd be concerned" lol so i guess that's us told, it's supposed to bend, interesting, never known anything like it but when it's supposed to accomodate a large amount of car variations, workable grade 6061 alloy which they say they use for the inserts, actually makes sense...I sound like a 034 advertiser now lol.

Sorry for wall of text.

TL;DR will keep going for another week with the purple powerflex, but may well return to more satisfying, tighter 034 insert after comparison.

 

[Trettiosjuan]

And you were going to get the even harder black one...

On idle there are larger amplitude vibrations.
On my manual Cupra with purple insert, I don't have the AC issue and only slight increase in idle vibration which I kinda like, feels like there is some muscle under the hood, but wife doesn't complain and she is sensitive to such discomfort. Reverse does need modulation of throttle, on the Neuspeed I removed some of the rear bush material (the web between the rear 'fangs') which improved the situation.

On the lighter FR engine the normal grade insert should be better as previously recommended by me.

The 034 bends and there is a gap between it and the outer bush preventing NVH transfer at idle. But also allows more movement and more axle tramp in my experience. And the added NVH under acceleration which I did not like, sounded to me like a misaligned exhaust catching on every time you get on it... Like the Cupra Soundaktor but bit worse again. Preference indeed.

 

[Kraken]

And you were going to get the even harder black one...

On idle there are larger amplitude vibrations.
On my manual Cupra with purple insert, I don't have the AC issue and only slight increase in idle vibration which I kinda like, feels like there is some muscle under the hood, but wife doesn't complain and she is sensitive to such discomfort. Reverse does need modulation of throttle, on the Neuspeed I removed some of the rear bush material (the web between the rear 'fangs') which improved the situation.

On the lighter FR engine the normal grade insert should be better as previously recommended by me.

The 034 bends and there is a gap between it and the outer bush preventing NVH transfer at idle. But also allows more movement and more axle tramp in my experience. And the added NVH under acceleration which I did not like, sounded to me like a misaligned exhaust catching on every time you get on it... Like the Cupra Soundaktor but bit worse again. Preference indeed.

I actually had a feel of the yellow one, it felt to me way too soft so that's why I went with the purple one, hence also my surprise. It's not a question of the best one for the job it seems in my case, as the 034 for me just has a completely different vibe to it, almost literally lol.

It terms of tramp for me its the same, both really hard pulls, pure grip, which is excellent indeed. As for your experiences it just goes to show our differences on cupra and FR but also tastes, I thought the same as you about catching exhaust, 100% nope, since contacting 034 they informed me it's just to with the metal transmitting a more direct harmonic sound from the engine bay and transmission, in some engines its a louder note (like mine) some it can be more NVH (like yours) and in some there is nothing, I for one appreciate more volume. I am glad my model has no sound actuator as the natural engine/intake sound rocks .

At the end of the day I'm glad I've tried 3 different ones now, it's great we have so much choice on this platform and this community has been awesome and helpful with my little tweaks I've been doing, thoroughly appreciate all the discussion .

 

[Trettiosjuan]

Good to see different perspectives, hopefully helps others that read along.

 

[sheffield]

Has anyone used one of these in a 300?

 

[AndrewJB]

Has anyone used one of these in a 300?

No different than 280 or 290, will react the same.

 

[Smiddy]

Finally got round to fitting my neuspeed one today (along with Michelin PS 4S on the front) and even in the short drive home i could notice the difference, there is a slight bit of vibration at idle but you dont notice ones moving.

I stopped on the way home just to plant my right foot from a stand still and no wheel hop at all.