Appalling Range

[martdon2002]

Hello,
Anyone else disappointed with the appalling range from a full charge. Didn't expect what was advertised but still only getting 260 miles to a 100 percent charge, sitting with a scarf and hat on so not to use the heating. It's actually cheaper and i can get to and from places without worrying about refueling driving my diesel van.
Also trying to get above 70kw on a fast charger is impossible, not the 150kw as the car says it'll do.
Not impressed TBH

 

[Seastormer]

Hello,
Anyone else disappointed with the appalling range from a full charge. Didn't expect what was advertised but still only getting 260 miles to a 100 percent charge, sitting with a scarf and hat on so not to use the heating. It's actually cheaper and i can get to and from places without worrying about refueling driving my diesel van.
Also trying to get above 70kw on a fast charger is impossible, not the 150kw as the car says it'll do.
Not impressed TBH

Shocking, and they wonder why private buyers are ignoring EV's.

 

[The Groundsman]

The range is what I expected TBH for this time of year. My last EV managed around 20% less miles on a full charge in the winter compared to the summer and I think the Cupra is working out about the same.

I do agree about the charging speed. I remember reading it would only take 30 minutes to get up to a SOC of 80% but like you I haven't managed to get anything higher than 72kws from a rapid / ultra rapid charger ( 150 kw and 350kw)

 

[Tell]

Shocking, and they wonder why private buyers are ignoring EV's.

Well the initial price of EVs is high as they recover development costs and have aimed at the top end. Prices are falling but range will be an issue over ICE for some. Home charging where possible and runs within the ~ 240 miles isn't an issue if you keep them plugged in. Depends what you use them for keeping within the range no great issue, outside you'll be charging them up, cups of coffee and lunch breaks on route. Depends what your mix of driving is and whether you can home charge.

 

[andy2max]

I’ve recently had my Cupra Born, so smaller battery and range than your Tavascan. If your on a cheap tariff like octopus intelligent it seems like cheap motoring. We did our first long journey on the weekend, around 400 miles in total and was not inconvienced by it being electric. Although the weather was good this weekend, air con on all the time. On Sunday we stopped for breakfast and charged while eating, and drove around 200 miles, and got home without needing to charge again until overnight. I think it depends on your type of driving, if your doing long journeys everyday or can’t charge at home an EV is not right for you. In regard to the fast charging speed, I think you need to tell the battery to pre condition to get full 130kwh charging speed. We drove from our hotel to where we got breakfast which was about 10 minutes so not long enough to get faster than 77kwh charging speed.

 

[martdon2002]

Hi, I just do a normal commute to work sitting on the range setting, 100 miles per day on a motorway, i believe they will be great for in town commutes with very few miles which i think really they are aimed at as the infrastructure for charging is still poor and expensive.
Yes the car with pre heat says it will charge at 150kw but all the fast chargers i've tried will not get above 70kw. In comparison friends have teslas which are far more advanced and better range/charging speeds although they cost more to buy. Mine was pretty good on a lease through tax relief but I wouldn't buy one through the normal channels. Longer runs than my local commute I've been back in the diesel van.
I just don't think they are made for winter weather and long runs, i went out during the snow recently and every warning light flagged up on the dash, likely that the snow covered all of the sensors on the front of the car and with no heat from the engine it didn't melt. I can't home charge at the moment because i'm on a looped supply, they are working on getting the house unlooped but its a slow process, Another 10 years or so and this country may be ready for them....

 

[andy2max]

I must admit I didn’t get chance to try when the battery was warm enough to see if I would get over 70/80kwh on a fast charger so mine could be the same. I also haven’t been through the extremely cold weather yet so I may change my mind. Mine is through a salary sacrifice deal also, I don’t think I would be spending the money on buying one private. I’m lucky I don’t have a popped supply so get about 7.6kwh charging at home. Hope yours gets sorted soon

 

[Tell]

Unlooped... I'd ask what do you do about putting the electric cooker on .... if you had one. Have to time the Sunday roast so they don't clash.

I'm interested in the battery to power up the house in power cuts with the correct charger that includes an invertor. Living in the country the last power cut went on for 36hours. I could have done with the CH electrics powered off the car. Apparently it's popular in Ireland where they get similar trees down on power lines. When the car gets low you pop down to the nearest charger point and drive back home. Obviously you would not want to run an electric cooker off your Tavascan battery.

Round here there are a lot of EVs... perhaps know the reason why. Putting the buying cost to one side which is coming down they are good for "county driving" if you have a home charger. Longer jaunts you need to plan your charging stops on route. If are retired and you haven't got a need that takes you long distances, then ideal and have a home charging capability.... with that battery and invertor for power cut back up for the house. Well I could always have a couple of off grid batteries but the solar panels are on the garage roof so not having the drive dug up for a return path. The charger I'm told by the electricians that put the solar in would run off a spur to the outside meter box. That's my long term plan. I'm giving it 5 years.

Better give a link to the special chargers that have the invertor in them and I know the Tavascan has the capability to power backwards.

Well that's the Irish text for what EV owners were upto in the storms during power cuts:

EV owners using cars to power homes during outages

Electric vehicle owners have been using their cars as a power source in their homes during power cuts caused by Storm Éowyn.

www.rte.ie

Unless the invertor is built into the car .

Here's how to backup your electricity before the next storm

Some important points to consider about your electrical backup options, including generators, electric cars and solar panels

www.rte.ie

Useful factsheet

https://aeva.asn.au/files/3744/

Doesn't currently support V2X but I don't think that means you can't back power the house but you do need a specific charger with invertor - I think.

Bidirectional charging is the one to look out for... quite a few No against that. V2X etc.

CUPRA Tavascan VZ

All details and specs of the CUPRA Tavascan VZ (2024). Compare price, lease, real-world range and consumption of every electric vehicle.

ev-database.org

Hmm I thought it was on the menu thou ?.

This list says VW ID has it

What Is Bidirectional Charging? — EV Connect

Bidirectional charging allows EV batteries to do much more than just power our cars. Here’s how drivers, homeowners and businesses can benefit from this technology.

www.evconnect.com

Never mind the range if it can power the house in a power cut . Will be interested to hear anyone who's got that going.