I'm just wondering how much it suffers from heatsoak compared with k03?
How much different does it feel in general to a k03...?
Thanks, Jim
How much different does it feel in general to a k03...?
Thanks, Jim
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jsparks
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wouldnt do that mate if i was you. unless your running standard map. again not advisable.
Just get yourself a FMIC first, then put the k03s on. and then map it etc.
Your never going to see potential without low intake temps etc.
Just get yourself a FMIC first, then put the k03s on. and then map it etc.
Your never going to see potential without low intake temps etc.
as martin says - increased inlet temps will just pull back on the ECU at the top end, which is where the k03s 'sees' it's increase.
yeah I realise it will pull back at top end and i won't see full potential until I get a fmic, but it won't be slower than a k03 will it? surely the inlet temps on leon cupra's and tt's must be high on a smic too..?
I've basically got everything needed except fmic which will ge added later. It is being mapped with smic first tho...
I've basically got everything needed except fmic which will ge added later. It is being mapped with smic first tho...
my car already has a custom map and thankfully I only pay £50 for a remap tweak so I'm only losing £50 by fitting a fmic later...and I doubt I'll get a fmic for a few months...i'm too impatient to wait lol
jsparks
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your not going to want to drive hard on a k03s anyways with your map, youll be lean. if you put a 4bar on, youll be rich, without a k03s map to suit.
£50 quid to remap your car for a different turbo with no FMIC
Do it properly or dont do it at all i say. Some of us have learnt the hard way.
Once a k03s is running correctly on a good map, your peak torque will be much higher, closer to 5000rpm. Not a low peak then a dieing graph.
£50 quid to remap your car for a different turbo with no FMIC
Do it properly or dont do it at all i say. Some of us have learnt the hard way.
Once a k03s is running correctly on a good map, your peak torque will be much higher, closer to 5000rpm. Not a low peak then a dieing graph.
what's funny about that? its a good price if u ask me mate and it is a good map...i've had revo and upsolute and i prefer it to both of those.
I won't be driving my car with k03s and my current remap...its being remapped to the k03s at the same time as fitting. The fueling etc will be correct too, just no fmic.
The way I see it is a leon cupra and it's k03s can be remapped with a smic, so what's wrong with a ibiza doing the same...?
I know I need a fmic to get the most out of it, but I can't see that I'll be learning anything "the hard way"? I can't see that i'm putting my engine in danger or anything, or am I???
In fact didn't Bill run IHI with smic for a while...
I won't be driving my car with k03s and my current remap...its being remapped to the k03s at the same time as fitting. The fueling etc will be correct too, just no fmic.
The way I see it is a leon cupra and it's k03s can be remapped with a smic, so what's wrong with a ibiza doing the same...?
I know I need a fmic to get the most out of it, but I can't see that I'll be learning anything "the hard way"? I can't see that i'm putting my engine in danger or anything, or am I???
In fact didn't Bill run IHI with smic for a while...
jsparks
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leon has a bigger SMIC for starters. not goign to enter into arguements.
If you saw logs of a remapped mk3 with a SMIC, you would think twice = detonation.
If you saw logs of a remapped mk3 with a SMIC, you would think twice = detonation.
I wasn't instigating an argument mate...i just didn't think you realised I will be getting it properly mapped to the k03s...
I thought someone would have done this before tbh.
I thought someone would have done this before tbh.
They're right Jimyu. The side mount on the Ibiza is useless on a chipped car, let alone a K03S conversion. I can't see you gaining any benefits over the K03 without doing the FMIC beforehand.
I did actually have mine mapped with the K03S without having the FMIC. If it was winter, it may not be so much of a problem, but with the temperatures were seeing at the moment, it WILL run like a big bag of dung. It's a pointless exercise (you'll gain nothing), you really should get the FMIC on first. Once the FMIC was fitted I went back up to Jabba for them to tweak the map and the difference was vast.
I did actually have mine mapped with the K03S without having the FMIC. If it was winter, it may not be so much of a problem, but with the temperatures were seeing at the moment, it WILL run like a big bag of dung. It's a pointless exercise (you'll gain nothing), you really should get the FMIC on first. Once the FMIC was fitted I went back up to Jabba for them to tweak the map and the difference was vast.
cheers damo. how long was you running it before the fmic got fitted etc?
and when it heatsoaked do you think it was worse than a remapped k03..?
and when it heatsoaked do you think it was worse than a remapped k03..?
I ran it for about 6 months. It was ok'ish to begin with but the temperatures were well under 10C but as the summer kicked in, it was truly awful. You'd get one decent run and that was it, the little intercooler just couldn't cope. Power would just die off further up the rev range.
I never had my car remapped on the K03. I went straight from standard to the K03S (I wasn't keen on a remapped K03 after having a couple of test drives). What you have to consider, which is mentioned above, are that the gains you get from the K03S are mainly in the upper rev range (above 4.5k rpm). You won't notice this, though, as by the time your at this point on the rev range, your ECU will be pulling things back due to heatsoak. That's why it's pointless you doing it in this order.
I never had my car remapped on the K03. I went straight from standard to the K03S (I wasn't keen on a remapped K03 after having a couple of test drives). What you have to consider, which is mentioned above, are that the gains you get from the K03S are mainly in the upper rev range (above 4.5k rpm). You won't notice this, though, as by the time your at this point on the rev range, your ECU will be pulling things back due to heatsoak. That's why it's pointless you doing it in this order.
And to add, your looking to spend £50 getting the car remapped to the K03S and then remapped again once the FMIC is fitted. That's £100. Why don't you just put that money towards the FMIC (it doesn't have to be expensive if you use the guides on here for the Laguna IC).
You'll have far more fun driving the car with the K03 and FMIC than you will on the K03S and SMIC. You'll be even happier once the K03S does get fitted.
You'll have far more fun driving the car with the K03 and FMIC than you will on the K03S and SMIC. You'll be even happier once the K03S does get fitted.
do you have to remap wen you fit a fmic?
Im running a ko3s with smic but holding back on buying an fmic incase i need to remap. i havent got anywhere close to get remapped
Im running a ko3s with smic but holding back on buying an fmic incase i need to remap. i havent got anywhere close to get remapped
i don't think you have to but it's best to... you can map it more aggresively with fmic.
To get the very best out it, I'd say yes (more of a tweak than anything, though). I seem to remember Mike @ Jabbasport saying that he'd advanced the ignition timing by 2 degrees or something to that effect (I don't know much about this side of things so I'll stop there, lol).
The ECU will adapt things to a certain degree without remapping, so don't hold back from buying one based on that reason. Your car will appreciate the extra cooling.
The ECU will adapt things to a certain degree without remapping, so don't hold back from buying one based on that reason. Your car will appreciate the extra cooling.
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