ABF engine and cams

[killer205]

hi


i have just been looking at some KR cams for the ABF engine which is the same engine that is in the ibiza and the golf right?

if so dose any 1 know what sort of power it will give if i put them cams in it.



cheers

 

[projectgingawar]

by KR cams I'm guessing that means that they're cams taken from a KR engine which is a 1.8 16v as fitted to mk2 golf gti's and corrado's. If this is what they are then there is no benefit whatsoever in fitting them! what is quite common is when poeple have a 9A engined car (late 2.0L 16v corrados ect) that only has 130 odd bhp, then fitting a set of cams from an ABF (or KR, can't actually remember) will give a 20bhp gain taking power to 150bhp.

 

[killer205]

by KR cams I'm guessing that means that they're cams taken from a KR engine which is a 1.8 16v as fitted to mk2 golf gti's and corrado's. If this is what they are then there is no benefit whatsoever in fitting them! what is quite common is when poeple have a 9A engined car (late 2.0L 16v corrados ect) that only has 130 odd bhp, then fitting a set of cams from an ABF (or KR, can't actually remember) will give a 20bhp gain taking power to 150bhp.

thanks yea that dose make sence now do you know any where i can get cams for the ABF ibiza engine


cheers

 

[truCido]

most cam companies make them for the ABF...Kent Cams, Piper etc

 

[captin_urbis]

apparently if you get the cams from the abf golf engine, it will give you a 10 bhp increase ( i think its the ABF i could be wrong)

 

[F2 Stu]

KR cams are said to bring the power in around 1k rpm earlier but its a trade off in top end.

you can get cams for the 16v from Piper Cams, Kent cams, Shrick, Cat Cams to name a few...

 

[F2 Stu]

apparently if you get the cams from the abf golf engine, it will give you a 10 bhp increase ( i think its the ABF i could be wrong)

 

[projectgingawar]

the ones i've heard the best reports about seem to be schrick! best person to ask would be dinky dave as he has a 190bhp n/a abf in his car!I personally am not gonna bother with cams as for the £500-£600 they cost i would have the head ported and polished and get the inlet/exhaust ports matched and would result in more power whilst retaining the standard smooth idle and fuel consumpsion. also by doing that if I ever did decide to fit cam's i'd get a lot more power!

 

[projectgingawar]

apparently if you get the cams from the abf golf engine, it will give you a 10 bhp increase ( i think its the ABF i could be wrong)

You must be thinking of the 8v fella! if you fit a mk2 golf (PB engined) gti 8v camshaft into an AGG engine it will give up to a 10bhp increse depending on other mods.

 

[WeeJase]

KR cams are said to bring the power in around 1k rpm earlier but its a trade off in top end.

you can get cams for the 16v from Piper Cams, Kent cams, Shrick, Cat Cams to name a few...

and isn't it just the inlet cam? i think brendy did this when his belt went pingu.

 

[F2 Stu]

I think he did both IIRC

 

[captin_urbis]

You must be thinking of the 8v fella! if you fit a mk2 golf (PB engined) gti 8v camshaft into an AGG engine it will give up to a 10bhp increse depending on other mods.

aah right, i new it was something like that, just didnt no which enigine lol

 

[cordobabrendy]

I think he did both IIRC

I went with an entire good kr head and mixed and matched all fittings but the actual innards of the kr head were from the mk2 golf. more torque and same bhp as figures before it went as jase so delightfully put it, PINGU!
I traded in for the cupra before I had time to ge tthe inlet flowed, I reckon there was a very good increase (relatively speaking) as the inlets on the kr are narrower than the abf with scope for a fair amount of metal removal.