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Dozer360 · Jul 19, 2012

a picture is worth a thousand words

i was driving home and felt a jolt through the whole car that felt like i was crashed into, at first i thought it was the exhaust had fallen off, got home to find the engine looking a bit lower than normal, and it moves about when rocked, looked under the car to check the exhaust and saw the bolt (or what i think would be a bolt) is missing from (what i think is) the dog bone mount bracket to the engine.

if anyone has any ideas how to fix this or if it is a bolt what size i need to get cos i dont feel safe driving it and i need to get to work in the morning.

please hhhhhhheeeeeeeellllllllllppppppp

Steely · Jul 19, 2012

has the bolt sheered? or just worked loose? you re missing 2 bolts one in the dog bone & one in the bracket

LEE69 · Jul 19, 2012

So hard to tell if the threads are knackered.

The engine will move back and forward dead easy now, putting more strain on the remaining mounts.

Dozer360 · Jul 19, 2012

some more pix

yes its both bolts

csd_19 · Jul 19, 2012

LEE69 said:
So hard to tell if the threads are knackered.

The engine will move back and forward dead easy now, putting more strain on the remaining mounts.

As well as putting a lot of strain on your downpipe/exhaust.

I'd say don't drive it until you get the bolts replaced, as Lee says the engine will move around a hell of a lot - if you've ever seen a stock 1.8T on the dyno the engine moves a fair bit anyway. With no dogbone mount attached it rocks really easily, even by hand.

csd_19 · Jul 19, 2012

Can't really tell about the rear bolt hole but the front one looks okay from the last picture there

Have you had a new sump recently? Looks very shiny lol.

Dozer360 · Jul 19, 2012

it does rock very freely by hand.

i cant see the other bolts thread at all

Dozer360 · Jul 19, 2012

no its not a new sump, just the flash i think

Dozer360 · Jul 19, 2012

do you think it will survive another 4 miles to the garage if i can get them to look at it, im sure its gunna be much easier to fix on a 4 post lift than on the edge of a pavement.

csd_19 · Jul 19, 2012

You'll have to rock the engine back to its normal position before being able to see the threads through the dogbone mount, either that or unbolt it completely from the subframe.

LEE69 · Jul 19, 2012

Dozer360 said:
do you think it will survive another 4 miles to the garage if i can get them to look at it, im sure its gunna be much easier to fix on a 4 post lift than on the edge of a pavement.

Personally, get it towed, don't get it there under it's own power.

Dozer360 · Jul 19, 2012

LEE69 said:
Personally, get it towed, don't get it there under it's own power.

i have no way of getting it towed, its done about 6 miles like it just to get it home, there are 3 garages near my work so ill have to call up early before i leave and see if they can fit it in

Muttley · Jul 20, 2012

Bolts are M10. Be very careful if you put a substitute in. Gentle driving, smooth gearchanges, no rapid torque changes. The bolts should be renewed every time they are disturbed. You need new bolts from a VAG dealer.

Has any work been done to the car recently that would need the engine mounts to be disturbed? Those bolts have not been tightened properly.

Dan1720v · Jul 20, 2012

Don't drive it. Get the aa to tow it or something. Carry on driving and you'll snap the studs in the turbo, and you'll have created about 6 hours work, for removal and refitting of the turbo and drilling out the sheared studs and refitting new ones.

You don't HAVE to renew the bolts, it's advised, but I've had my box off 3 times and never renewed them with no issues atall.

Dozer360 · Jul 20, 2012

I don't suppose anyone knows the part no for the bigger bolt?
I know the smaller one is a "N 102 466 03" thanks Lee.

Dozer360 · Jul 20, 2012

Or if there is a kit or something I can get with all of them in?

CupraTim · Jul 20, 2012

Dunno about the bolts I'm afraid - but worth upgrading the bog bone bush to a Powerflex one. So cheap it's worth it!

LEE69 · Jul 20, 2012

Dozer360 said:
I don't suppose anyone knows the part no for the bigger bolt?
I know the smaller one is a "N 102 466 03" thanks Lee.

Can't get onto http://www.vagcat.com/ again

Dozer360 · Jul 20, 2012

I couldn't get on to vagcat ( I saw ur link in another post).

Do the aftermarket ones all come with bolts? I know awesome do a kit but it doesn't mention any bolts.

Dozer360 · Jul 20, 2012

I found this

http://www.psituning.com/product.php/19135/

Are "stretch" bolts the ones I need?

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