Thermal box around battery - thoughts.......

nd-photo.nl

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I can highly recommend a battery monitor, then you are able to see what happens over time

More info: https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/nd-photo-nl-s-seat-leon-st-cupra-280.477591/post-5068748

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LeylandVCDS

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Yes, that is my point - the OP has a 2.0 TDI - but has fitted an EFB.
The full option map shows a build code of J0V for the battery, and ETKA shows EFB 420A/70AH for the build code J0V on my car. Screenshots attached.
That's the exact battery that was originally in the car that I replaced.

The only change has been the uprated capacity of the replacement.


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ViperSlider

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Going back to the original question, the cover offers a thermal barrier for the battery so they are practical rather than cosmetic.

The sizes differ too so ensure you get the correct physical size for your battery.
 

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Also, I've always considered that the thermal barriers for car batteries was intended to limit the engine compartment heat from getting to the battery in hot weather and/or countries with higher ambient temperatures than UK.

One thing that might assist you in working out what is happening, is a small plug into "cig lighter" ie 12V Power socket, voltmeter, I've had one plugged into the socket on my wife's August 2015 VW Polo 1.2TSI 110PS 6MT for many years - it lets you get a better understanding of how the smart charging is working, and hopefully allows you to spot a dying battery before it lets you down.

Now, that 2015 Polo is coming up for 52,000 miles and it's original Exide EFB is still fit for use, okay it is weakening slowly (as checked at every annual service by me using a CTEK Battery Tester), but if I let the "do it's thing" with auto Stop/Start, the car's engine will cut out after driving 0.5 mile in winter temperatures - as long as I've kept the cabin fan and rear window heater AND seat heaters off.

This car tends to be garaged overnight though, essential to avoid lots of window clearing of frost and snow off car!

Edit:- I like the idea of having a battery monitor that you can view remotely though!

My older daughter's 2019 Leon Cupra also has an EFB - SEAT being a bit tight/cheap there I think, but her car is also on its original battery and I test it at annual services and it seems to be in good condition yet!
 

cuthound

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Also, I've always considered that the thermal barriers for car batteries was intended to limit the engine compartment heat from getting to the battery in hot weather and/or countries with higher ambient temperatures than UK.

Indeed, AGM batteries are actually VRSLA's (valve regulated sealed lead acid) batteries, which don't have a liquid electrolyte but recombine the oxygen and hydrogen evolved during charging to maintain electrolyte levels. Excessive temperatures and/or over charging results in the gas pressure inside the battery increasing which causes the valve to lift and vent the excessive pressure to atmosphere. As the gas is the electrolyte this significantly reduces battery life.
 

SuperV8

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The full option map shows a build code of J0V for the battery, and ETKA shows EFB 420A/70AH for the build code J0V on my car. Screenshots attached.
That's the exact battery that was originally in the car that I replaced.

The only change has been the uprated capacity of the replacement.

The genuine battery cover for your car: 5Q0915411E
Protective battery casing with cover
PR:J0V+TJ1, TR1,TS1+7L6
 

LeylandVCDS

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Quick update - I have again had the battery tested today as the car was difficult to start first thing on the cold mornings recently, and lo and behold it came back as having a cell down........Euro Car Parts were brilliant about it, and said it needed a warranty replacement.
I have taken the opportunity to upgrade the EFB battery that was on to a Bosch 70AH 760CCA AGM battery, and all has been recoded to reflect the change.
I also picked up a genuine thermal battery jacket, so that's gone on with the new battery too. Hopefully this is the last of the problems.
Thanks for all the replies and help, much appreciated
 

Mo_86

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It's a big battery on that - from your photo and a bit of research it's the same physical size as the one on the 2.0TDI, 278mm length, 175mm width, 190mm height.
Correct thermal jacket is 5Q0 915 411 E, which retails at £35.55 + vat, £42.66 inc vat
Brilliant thank you mate, i wonder why mine is missing seeing as the battery looks original?
 
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LeylandVCDS

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Brilliant thank you mate, i wonder why mine is missing seeing as the battery looks original?
Dunno, mine "looked" original when I got the car, but the jacket was missing. I strongly suspect that as an ex-lease car, the battery was swapped out for a knackered one before it was returned, and the jacket was simply not replaced
 
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Walone

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It's a big battery on that - from your photo and a bit of research it's the same physical size as the one on the 2.0TDI, 278mm length, 175mm width, 190mm height.
Correct thermal jacket is 5Q0 915 411 E, which retails at £35.55 + vat, £42.66 inc vat
Same size battery as the Banner EFB on my 2016 MY 1.4ACT.
 
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The battery insulation seems to work well! Yesterday evening I was checking the battery monitor stats, the car was standing outside with -3.0 C and the battery monitor, which sits directly next to the battery was showing 15.0 C, many hours after I stopped driving

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