Heads up on MIB2 map update

[cairus]

Europa 1.

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU1_2310_V20.7z

Europa 2

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU2_2310_V20.7z

Europa 3

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU3_2310_V20.7z

Europa 4

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-DL1_2310_V20.7z

Europa 5

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-DL2_2310_V20.7z

Europa 6

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-DL3_2310_V20.7z

Europa 7

https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-DL4_2310_V20.7z

 

[LeylandVCDS]

Thanks really great, thank you.

 

[Tell]

@cairus

You did the edit. Have you tested them all ?. After finding E1, I thought the rest may be there.

I will check the all Europe map and EU1 later. Like to keep EU1 in the car just in case one fancies that rather than the old maps with TMC working.

 

[LeylandVCDS]

Just to further highlight these options, here is a bit more information taken from both the VW and SEAT map portals.


UK coverage is only available on the following options:

FULL EUROPE - https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-AS_2310_V20.7z - 32GB card

WESTERN EUROPE + UK - https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU1_2310_V20.7z - 16GB card. Coverage: Andorra, Belgium, France, Gibraltar, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, United Kingdom

SOUTHERN CENTRAL EUROPE + UK - https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-DL2_2310_V20.7z - 16GB card. Coverage: Andorra, Belgium, Germany, France, Ireland, Iceland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Austria, San Marino, Switzerland, Vatican City, United Kingdom

NORTHERN CENTRAL EUROPE + UK + Scandinavia - https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-DL3_2310_V20.7z - 16 GB card. Coverage: Andorra, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Finland, France, Ireland, Iceland, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, United Kingdom


POLISH coverage on available on:

FULL EUROPE - https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-AS_2310_V20.7z - 32 GB card

EASTERN EUROPE 1 https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU3_2310_V20.7z- 16 GB card

EASTERN EUROPE 2 https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-DL1_2310_V20.7z - 16 GB card - same as Eastern Europe 1 + Andorra, France and Benelux

FULL EASTERN EUROPE - https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/DiscoverMedia2_EU-DL4_2310_V20.7z - 16GB card

The ONLY map available with both UK and Polish coverage is the FULL Europe link above

Big thanks to both @Tell and @cairus for the info they have provided

 

[LeylandVCDS]

Still having problems - have tried putting the old working maps back on, but its now not even recognising these.......no idea what's happening now

 

[cairus]

I have No Problems...

 

[cairus]

you use the trick with the nds?

I think i have something for you

 

[Tell]

The guidance is in the map resource here. People manage to get files and directories confused. I've seen that. So on that overall.nds file copy they wack the other file in the EEC_WLD directory then it doesn't work.

I keep a proforma so it's just copy and paste, left to right on it. Profile of the copy from. Makes it easy. No note searching. You just follow the directories down.

\Arona - Satnav Files\Original File Fragment To Copy (V7) (1030)\EEC\EEC_WLD

How I do it. Not drag and drop but copy and paste from the file fragment held under Maps.. blah... blah

 

[LeylandVCDS]

you use the trick with the nds?

I think i have something for you

Hi, yes, got the 2210 maps back working, so the card is OK.
Downloaded both bundles DL2 and DL3, as I want Germany included, and swapped the overall.NDS file from my working 2210 maps, still using the genuine SEAT card, and both DL2 and DL3 immediately come up as navigation database unavailable.

You have something for me? I'm intrigued....
How is your daughter doing?

 

[Tell]

People do hack about but I think it's just worth buying an ebay 32gb VAG card and be done with it. Postage stamp working... costs more than it's worth in time.

 

[cairus]

sorry, the topic about the speedometer has been left behind...

 

[Tell]

The all Europe success screen with the ndr workaround

Same TomTom cartography. I recognise what I've put on HereMaps and what I got TomTom to put on. So yes updated TomTom cartography but isn't HereMaps so no chance off Inrix TMC without old maps. Pulling the card back out . You have the choice in the UK of working TMC on the mib2 standard with old maps, or new maps but no TMC.

Hmm are speed signs left out ?. It's happened before. In the UK we lost the top speed once. Then we had trailer speeds were shown all the time... with no trailor . The mib2 standard isn't a finished product. Mib2 high was always better. So yes sticking to the old HereMaps originated one with the Inrix mod as per the resource link.

Everything you needed to know or didn't need to know is in the resource including the Inrix fix for TMC on old maps, the NDS work around etc:

GPS and satnav - Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

This resource is applicable to all Seat navigation systems plus other Vag brands which are MIB2 / 2.5. It is built from the knowledge base on the Leon forum from a long running thread which has the advantage of tracking the twists and turns over...

www.seatcupra.net

 

[cairus]

Which old Card you need?

 

[LeylandVCDS]

OK finally, I have working 2310 maps......DL2 version because I wanted Germany included. Not been out on the road yet to see about speed limit signs, the rain is biblical out there and I ain't getting soaked again - already had a soaking out with the dogs earlier!
Thanks to all for your help

 

[Tell]

Which old Card you need?

If we are talking about this it's on this link

Updating the inbuilt Mib2 Satnav / Mib2 tricks and Mib1

Just updated to latest maps. First time I've updated them since I got the car. Sat nav works fine so far, new roads in my area now included. Scanned my car with carista and car scanner pro app and getting a Navigation database not enabled error code. As I say, it seems to be working fine, just...

www.seatcupra.net

Two bright Briskoda posters sorted out Inrix for the UK so we get travel reports. The Audi TT driver that did the programming on the NDS front then helped out a French board what had similarly lost TMC. It's built on the work that Ozzies did to get their units onto Australian TMC. Basically they used the mib2 standard toolkit but with modified NDS files which the Audi TT driver did you didn't need to use the toolkit. Just file copy. Did the same for a French board. Afraid old maps thou. I take the programmers word on this. For mib2 high and mib1 standard for non connected units... Seat never were, you change the TMC group from 15 to 14. He told that. The map files on the high when opened up and searched shows that. Tomtom material is totally lacking in that.

 

[cairus]

Is it possible that Austria is not affected by this?

 

[cairus]

It's about the tmc menu item in the car, right?

 

[Tell]

TMC groups are defined by a collection of providers. Travelling between European countries you get different ones. The UK Trafficmaster provider pulled out from the group that Vag uses which meant Vag cars don't get any TMC Traffic reports in the UK in how they are factory setup.

HereMaps files have enough flexibility built into them to change the TMC group to put them on another group. Those groups mix and match the TMC providers across Europe. Group 14 for non connected cars contains Inrix which is now the only sole broadcaster of TMC in the UK. 15 is the group that VAG set up non connected cars to. Likes of Ford use Inrix etc. So we make the cars Ford's by the change or something like that. Mib2 high and mib1 the latest maps are fine and work with it. Mib2 standard you have to decide whether traffic reports are more important than the latest maps.

Basically the UK Highway Agency use Inrix in their traffic reporting. How the feeds are more timely now.

UK Highways Agency

INRIX helps cities and businesses use big data to identify and solve transportation problems, making the world safer, happier and greener.

inrix.com

 

[cairus]

So the question now is whether the TMC messages are taken into account in the active route guidance?

 

[Tell]

So the question now is whether the TMC messages are taken into account in the active route guidance?

They are. I get those messages that your route is being changed like you use to get. The mod is just like tuning to another station. Probably the French could have done that with their mib2 highs and probably did whilst they needed a bit of programming for the mib2 standard. As said it was built on what Australians did to import Vag cars where the Australia TMC provider wasn't supported by Vag. Then when the mib2 standard cartography moved from HereMaps to TomTom they were faced with how to get their fix into the unit. The two Briskoda poster built on that.

Inrix uses the road works sign liberally as well here in the UK more than Trafficmaster ever did. That's used for congestion rather than blockage. At the end of the day since the UK Highway Agencies use Inrix it works a lot better than Trafficmaster ever did. There was an association with Trafficmaster and the highway agencies but that changed with Inrix getting the contract. So you are basically plugged into their database now of traffic delays.