Start Stop OFF modules for MQB Evo?

[spezwend]

I found couple of SS OFF modules from China. Have anyone installed or tested these modules?

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The same modules are sold in Europe also, so these should work I guess.. or not?

 

[tracktoy]

Dont know about these items but I have certainly seen people who have fitted a device on the Golf and Leon to disable it.

 

[spezwend]

Can you recommend a S/S device, you know it's working?

 

[TheUkWizard]

I do not understand why people want to disable SS. It saves fuel and emissions. I just lightly tap accelerator to spin it up when the traffic lights start to change. Or if I need a fast pull out on a dodgy bend.

 

[spezwend]

I do not understand why people want to disable SS. It saves fuel and emissions. I just lightly tap accelerator to spin it up when the traffic lights start to change. Or if I need a fast pull out on a dodgy bend.

This is not that topic.

 

[st4niu]

I do not understand why people want to disable SS. It saves fuel and emissions. I just lightly tap accelerator to spin it up when the traffic lights start to change. Or if I need a fast pull out on a dodgy bend.

At the same time putting more pressure on ignition system and battery. And the fuel reduction is like maybe 1% anyways so When you stop at lights it shows current consumption per hour. During hot weather it shows max 1.2 l/h so it's 0.02l/m. Barely any saving.

Not to mention the actual work of this ss system. It shuts down at every frickin intersection and when it turns back on - the car is very slow to pick up the gear again and give you the power to lift off safely.

 

[spezwend]

Actually I have many short trips and the battery is always empty (crappy small EFB) and when I stop at the light, it stops max for a minute and starts again, it's ridiculous.

 

[DEAN0]

I found couple of SS OFF modules from China. Have anyone installed or tested these modules?

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The same modules are sold in Europe also, so these should work I guess.. or not?

Strange description for the second link.
I wonder how a start/stop device is supposed to work on a fully electric car ( ID3, ID4, ID6 ) ?

 

[spezwend]

I think they mean platform: 'For VW Mqb Meb Evo platform'

 

[rdraheim]

At the same time putting more pressure on ignition system and battery. And the fuel reduction is like maybe 1% anyways so When you stop at lights it shows current consumption per hour. During hot weather it shows max 1.2 l/h so it's 0.02l/m. Barely any saving.

Not to mention the actual work of this ss system. It shuts down at every frickin intersection and when it turns back on - the car is very slow to pick up the gear again and give you the power to lift off safely.

Is this on a DSG? The S/S system is great on my 6-speed and is control with the clutch pedal. The M25 and surrounding is a nightmare and the system looks to be saving about 5-8% fuel in heavy traffic density. Also, the battery/starter motor and even part of the gearbox is different to support that larger-diameter starter motor, so I wouldn't worry about wear.

I haven't noticed any performance difference with a manual gearbox, but I might be missing something?

 

[st4niu]

Is this on a DSG? The S/S system is great on my 6-speed and is control with the clutch pedal. The M25 and surrounding is a nightmare and the system looks to be saving about 5-8% fuel in heavy traffic density. Also, the battery/starter motor and even part of the gearbox is different to support that larger-diameter starter motor, so I wouldn't worry about wear.

I haven't noticed any performance difference with a manual gearbox, but I might be missing something?

Yea, it's DSG. On traffic lights it's not annoying - I agree. But driving on the countryside roads or small city when you arrive at some crossroad and the traffic is heavy then you want the car to pull off with force to avoid side traffic. What happens with ss is that you stop, the engine shuts off, then you suddenly see a window to go and when you lift the foot out of brake pedal the engine starts but when you press the gas there's noticable lag. It's normal and understandable - the engine is still trying to start and you're just too fast trying to drive when the gearbox is trying to put the gear in.

I know that I can lift the brake a little bit earlier or move the steering wheel harder because it starts the engine also but then when you don't actually move the ss stops the engine and you have to repeat the above.

What's worse is that it often kills the engine while you're still moving. Like when you arrive at junction at slow speed but it's not stop junction so after checking side traffic you press the gas to move and baaah engine was killed because you were like moving 2-3 km/h and system decided now it's good to stop the motor because I don't know why exactly...

Can't relate with fuel consumption because with my daily drive to work I could maybe save like 0.2l per week so I don't really care.

Anyways - we gone a little bit offtopic and to get this back on track I found out on other forum that you can actually unplug one cable near the battery to disable ss. Well not only ss. It also disables battery management module J367 and you will loose information about charge, discharge etc. Battery will still charge and sometimes you will get a warning on dashboard about ss but nothing will happen and after next start it will be gone so nothing to worry about.
Perhaps @East Yorkshire Retrofits could explain this a little bit better than me coz I'm not technical.

 

[rdraheim]

Yea, it's DSG. On traffic lights it's not annoying - I agree. But driving on the countryside roads or small city when you arrive at some crossroad and the traffic is heavy then you want the car to pull off with force to avoid side traffic. What happens with ss is that you stop, the engine shuts off, then you suddenly see a window to go and when you lift the foot out of brake pedal the engine starts but when you press the gas there's noticable lag. It's normal and understandable - the engine is still trying to start and you're just too fast trying to drive when the gearbox is trying to put the gear in.

I know that I can lift the brake a little bit earlier or move the steering wheel harder because it starts the engine also but then when you don't actually move the ss stops the engine and you have to repeat the above.

What's worse is that it often kills the engine while you're still moving. Like when you arrive at junction at slow speed but it's not stop junction so after checking side traffic you press the gas to move and baaah engine was killed because you were like moving 2-3 km/h and system decided now it's good to stop the motor because I don't know why exactly...

Can't relate with fuel consumption because with my daily drive to work I could maybe save like 0.2l per week so I don't really care.

Anyways - we gone a little bit offtopic and to get this back on track I found out on other forum that you can actually unplug one cable near the battery to disable ss. Well not only ss. It also disables battery management module J367 and you will loose information about charge, discharge etc. Battery will still charge and sometimes you will get a warning on dashboard about ss but nothing will happen and after next start it will be gone so nothing to worry about.
Perhaps @East Yorkshire Retrofits could explain this a little bit better than me coz I'm not technical.

Thanks for your commentary. I noticed when glancing through the owner's manual that DSG-equipped cars turned off at a higher speed than the manual-equipped cars and was curious how it was to drive. I recently drove a ŠKODA Octavia in Germany with DSG and found the low-speed driving in the tight cities frustrating, so I can see your issue.

Many thanks for the information and good luck with your search.

 

[East Yorkshire Retrofits]

Yea, it's DSG. On traffic lights it's not annoying - I agree. But driving on the countryside roads or small city when you arrive at some crossroad and the traffic is heavy then you want the car to pull off with force to avoid side traffic. What happens with ss is that you stop, the engine shuts off, then you suddenly see a window to go and when you lift the foot out of brake pedal the engine starts but when you press the gas there's noticable lag. It's normal and understandable - the engine is still trying to start and you're just too fast trying to drive when the gearbox is trying to put the gear in.

I know that I can lift the brake a little bit earlier or move the steering wheel harder because it starts the engine also but then when you don't actually move the ss stops the engine and you have to repeat the above.

What's worse is that it often kills the engine while you're still moving. Like when you arrive at junction at slow speed but it's not stop junction so after checking side traffic you press the gas to move and baaah engine was killed because you were like moving 2-3 km/h and system decided now it's good to stop the motor because I don't know why exactly...

Can't relate with fuel consumption because with my daily drive to work I could maybe save like 0.2l per week so I don't really care.

Anyways - we gone a little bit offtopic and to get this back on track I found out on other forum that you can actually unplug one cable near the battery to disable ss. Well not only ss. It also disables battery management module J367 and you will loose information about charge, discharge etc. Battery will still charge and sometimes you will get a warning on dashboard about ss but nothing will happen and after next start it will be gone so nothing to worry about.
Perhaps @East Yorkshire Retrofits could explain this a little bit better than me coz I'm not technical.

All I'm going to say about this is please don't do it

It's not worth ruining your battery and having an assortment of fault codes just to avoid start/ stop - especially when the cars are transmitting that fault data to seat (imagine a potential warranty claim).

Learn to live with it, or get a memory module for it. It can also be permanently disabled with a remap

 

[rdraheim]

All I'm going to say about this is please don't do it

It's not worth ruining your battery and having an assortment of fault codes just to avoid start/ stop - especially when the cars are transmitting that fault data to seat (imagine a potential warranty claim).

Learn to live with it, or get a memory module for it. It can also be permanently disabled with a remap

Good advice.

While you're here ... what about throttle position sensing ... can that be sorted by a remap or is a pedal box the only way? The EA211 just feel sluggish compared to the EA111.

I have read about the OBD11 and changing settings under the steering menu ... but after analysis that seems to be switching between modes (which my SEAT doesn't have anyway) rather than changing the actual pedal sensing ... any advice or it simply remap or pedal box?

 

[Andy.M]

All I'm going to say about this is please don't do it

It's not worth ruining your battery and having an assortment of fault codes just to avoid start/ stop - especially when the cars are transmitting that fault data to seat (imagine a potential warranty claim).

Learn to live with it, or get a memory module for it. It can also be permanently disabled with a remap

Whats a memory module? I'd like to disable s/s if it is possible.

 

[spezwend]

...especially when the cars are transmitting that fault data to seat (imagine a potential warranty claim).

So there is a backdoor? Even in maximum privacy mode? Another thing to disable... I'm already missing old cars.

 

[st4niu]

All I'm going to say about this is please don't do it

It's not worth ruining your battery and having an assortment of fault codes just to avoid start/ stop - especially when the cars are transmitting that fault data to seat (imagine a potential warranty claim).

Learn to live with it, or get a memory module for it. It can also be permanently disabled with a remap

I didn't even try bro Yet...

Jokes aside - Yea, I learned to live with it. Just part of my normal routine - get in the car, start the engine, put the seatbelt and in the meantime sluggish cupra software should be already fully loaded so I can go into settings and disable it and then start to drive.

 

[rdraheim]

I didn't even try bro Yet...

Jokes aside - Yea, I learned to live with it. Just part of my normal routine - get in the car, start the engine, put the seatbelt and in the meantime sluggish cupra software should be already fully loaded so I can go into settings and disable it and then start to drive.

Do you not have a simple on/off button like I do on my dash. It takes 2 attoseconds to push?

 

[st4niu]

Do you not have a simple on/off button like I do on my dash. It takes 2 attoseconds to push?

Nope. In Tormentor you either have to hold on/off button on multimedia screen and then turn off ss and then again on/off to turn on multimedia. Or go into car settings via touch screen, then assistants and then ss toggle is there. No plastic button sadly

In all the cars I had before I had button so it was hassle free and fast. Now it takes like 3-4 clicks on touch screen to turn it off. Probably that's why some of the users complain (me too) and wanna hardwire some modules in it. Most likely I would be satisfied if normal button was present lol.

 

[Andy.M]

Do you not have a simple on/off button like I do on my dash. It takes 2 attoseconds to push?

I wish