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MK3 Leon Cupra, what we know
- Thread starter Adman77
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I think you are right. The traction control is not all that bad, certainly not overkill in sport mode. I'm quicker with it on than I am with it off (but I am **** at blazing starts)
Fair enough, it's all willy waving anyway. Much like the sub 8 minute ring time, meaningless in the real world. Unless you want to drag race I wouldn't be too concerned. Besides, the fella in the ring vids is a proper driver rather than an enthusiastic wanabe. I know if I tried to emulate him I would end up arse backwards in the armco!
Don't confuse bhp with torque , your diesel may be a lower bhp but it's torque that produces speed.
The other thing is your not comparing mapped cars , the Leon stock is mapped for fuel economy for a vast amount of countries , and is mapped to make the most of low down torque.
A mapped 2 TSI in any guise will be very rapid the torque will cover the while rev range and be a complete animal , whether it can use all the power is another thing unless you have 4wd
The other thing is your not comparing mapped cars , the Leon stock is mapped for fuel economy for a vast amount of countries , and is mapped to make the most of low down torque.
A mapped 2 TSI in any guise will be very rapid the torque will cover the while rev range and be a complete animal , whether it can use all the power is another thing unless you have 4wd
You are right , if a Cupra and a golf R were to pull up at a set of lights and both cars were to pull off without launch control the results would be different to the video Al posted , 4 wd is excellent for getting off the line using launch control but a bit h if it bogs down.
There's a video showing a mk6 golf R v scirroco R driven by professional drivers and the off the line the golf R gets away but once moving the scirroco soon reels the golf in , I'm pretty sure that's what will happen with the the Cupra and golf R unless the gearing has been changed , have t seen the gearing specs so can't comment.
The Cupra in the first video looks like it's doing a rolling start , and the golf launch control is about 4250 rpm is that standard ?
I dont completely agree dude. 4x4 bogs down if you have a manual and you dont launch properly to the tune of the clutch being released before any kind of useful band of power has been hooked on to in order to build the revs.
For what its worth, here is a Golf R with no launch control and the same car with launch control
No launch control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec2TxN4nM5Q
With launch control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_TZVl_9SI
What would happen in the Leon, without launch control, is either a mess like you see in the clip above where the driver mashes the throttle in the Cupra and spreads his tyres on to the tarmac like he spreads his margarine on to his toast or he feathers it and therefore is unable to utilise the performance available to him because the engine provides too much to avoid wheelspin. Both methods are shown on the 2014 Cupra above. Of course there will be a happy medium too although it is unlikely to be much faster if at all.
Then you also have to consider that for this type of accelaration, the Cupra requires a bone dry non slippy road. The Golf will launch from 0-60 in under 5 seconds even when its wet
The Leon will always be faster once wheelspin issues are history though
Define speed?!
Power is how fast the car goes. Torque is how quick it gets there
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No bogging down here without launch control. Yeah somewhere around 4000rpms is about right.
I doubt the Cupra would catch up below 100mph tbh, and the more power you throw at them the bigger the gap becomes. Unless already rolling of coarse but then still relying on a dry road.
The S3 in standard will do a 100mph in 10secs done with a racelogic.
My last cupra with 80hp and nearly 100lbft more torque could just about do that with a good launch.
Anyway its all swings and roundabouts, personally I think 4wd is miles better for the UK's weather, having owned both.
I doubt the Cupra would catch up below 100mph tbh, and the more power you throw at them the bigger the gap becomes. Unless already rolling of coarse but then still relying on a dry road.
The S3 in standard will do a 100mph in 10secs done with a racelogic.
My last cupra with 80hp and nearly 100lbft more torque could just about do that with a good launch.
Anyway its all swings and roundabouts, personally I think 4wd is miles better for the UK's weather, having owned both.
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Good job she's careful with her heels on the door sills at the end.
Scott
Good job she's careful with her heels on the door sills at the end.
Scott
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