Is this stupid?

nally270lb.TQE

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I am sure you will be honest! :) . Basically we all know cold air is better so if I was to re route my air con blower to go over my air filter with a heat resistant exterior this would provide extremely cold air to the filter! Now I know this is not cost effective or very ECO but do you think it's possible? Luke.
 

F3rAL

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I am not sure how it calculates to power usage, but I think you are better of with aircon of you will have more power :D
It is the same as connecting eletric motor to the generator :) you would loose a lot of power while converting motor movement to generator movement to electricity :)
 

nd-photo.nl

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I am not sure how it calculates to power usage, but I think you are better of with aircon of you will have more power :D

This.

Switch car on with aircon off, let it idle a bit. Now as you're idling, turn on the aircon, you will hear and feel the life juice being sapped out bu the aircon. Also, you will use more petrol.

More power? Strip the whole aircon system out of your car and upgrade your intercooler. Weight reduction and lower intake temps :whistle:
 

Muttley

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Lets see:

The cabin air system will not allow the rates of flow you need to feed a turbocharged engine, or even a normally aspirated one. The cooling element is a finned matrix, like a radiator, but quite small and all contained behind the dash. The amount of ducting and pipework you'd have to do would be enormous.

The air cooling system works by refrigeration, pumping heat from one place (the cabin air inlet) to another (the condenser mounted in parallel with the intercooler and engine coolant radiator). The clever thing about refrigeration is that it allows you to cool things down below the temperature of the outside air. It expends significant amounts of energy doing this, which results in more heat - so you need to dispose of more heat from the refrigeration system than just what you suck out of the cabin air. All that heat is disposed of through the refrigerant condenser into the air next to your intercooler (if you have an FMIC).

Given that we are trying to cool down air that's going to be heated up by the turbo, an intercooler is a much better option. That's where the inlet air is hottest, and the bigger the temperature difference the easier it is to transfer energy.

Even for a normally aspirated engine, you would exceed the cooling capacity of the refrigeration system very quickly, so even if you ditched the cabin air system and rerouted the refrigerant to a much larger, well-designed for free flow cooling element in the engine inlet, the gale blowing past it would mean that you'd only get a small temperature drop.

Intercoolers, or charge air cooling by any other means (i.e. water/methanol injection) are a much better idea, more efficient and without the large weight penalty of the refrigeration system.

If what you were thinking of was to route the cabin air system into the airbox as an additional source of air at a lower temperature, see above - the amount of air you can provide is far less than the engine needs, and the overall reduction in inlet air temperature would be minimal, and certainly not worth the effort.
 
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akchappers

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I actually laughed when I read that! Sorry!
Actually I'm still laughing now.......:lol:
All jokes aside message this guy and ask where he got it from! :p
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James D1

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you drag in enough air just having standard pipe with airbox removed (for induction kit)

i had thought of gettign a cold air feed and placing the internal one into a cone and putting heatshield round but gain would be neglible. your car will always breath enough you'll certianly know if it didn't
 

mty12345

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lol, yh thats true :)
For all those who doubt how much power aircon uses, in the handbook it says that using the aircon can increase fuel consumption by 12% so it follows that it also robs you of 12% of your power. Try doing 100mph on a flat road and then turn on the aircon while keeping the throttle in the same position, your speed will drop to about 95mph!