seat leon 2.0 tdi 140

[rashedahmed1992]

Hi guys, im new to Seat but i am looking into buying a leon 2.0 tdi 140 in the near future,
is it any good?
i also want to know about any remaps or performance tuning i can do to it and what gains and disadvantages there will be?
just want to get an idea from owners out there

sorry for all the questions lol

thanks in advance guys

 

[Leon MK4]

I've just got the same motor last weekend and am so far very happy with it - Its not going to set any land speed records, but its got plenty of poke where u need it

There are lots of remaps available for this motor, most of which claim the about the same sort of figures (between 175 and 180 bhp) - Run a search and you will find loadsa of info on it.

If the car is a high miler, make sure its had regular servicing and that the cambelt has been changed when it supposed to (every 60k or 4 years I believe), make sure there isn't too much turbo noise and that there isn't much black smoke from the rear.

As above, run a search mate theres loads out there!

Good luck

 

[rashedahmed1992]

thanks for the quick reply mate
i have found this one company called more bhp but i do not really know if they are any good?
has anyone else on here used them in the past?

and also thank you for notifying me about things that i should look out for before i buy one, really appreciate it mate

 

[Scotty2hotty]

I love me pd140. Just enough poke for some b-road fun. ditch the standard potenzas when you wear them out for eagle f1s etc. When I pay my finance off in sept, im going for a remap (preferably revo remap), and Im going to lower the car on eibach sportlines. Its a good looking car (I believe my model the pre fl sport is the best sport leon in the mk2 range, as the standard pre 07 alloys are smart. The mpg is outstanding too, even when driven spirited.

Search the forums, loads of topics relating to the pd140. Best of all, the car does not have a dpf, so no clogging up issues and expensive regens....bonus

 

[rashedahmed1992]

your car looks really smart and im guessing after the remap your going to have alot more fun ...just keep yourself out of trouble aha
which models dont have the dpf?
also again love the colour of your car...might start considering it instead of my choice

 

[Scotty2hotty]

your car looks really smart and im guessing after the remap your going to have alot more fun ...just keep yourself out of trouble aha
which models dont have the dpf?
also again love the colour of your car...might start considering it instead of my choice

Thanks for that mate. My model is eclipse blue, they only made that colour until early 06. Personally I think its one of the better colours of the mk2 leon, second only to speed blue.

The early pre fl 140pd motors had no dpf, I believe all other dervs had a dpf.

I clean my car religiously every week, look after her well, keep her topped up with fluids. Sometimes I stand back in awe after a 4 hour detail. Quite rare in my colour, love the alloys too.

 

[WeeG]

Thanks for that mate. My model is eclipse blue, they only made that colour until early 06. Personally I think its one of the better colours of the mk2 leon, second only to speed blue.

The early pre fl 140pd motors had no dpf, I believe all other dervs had a dpf.

I clean my car religiously every week, look after her well, keep her topped up with fluids. Sometimes I stand back in awe after a 4 hour detail. Quite rare in my colour, love the alloys too.

Of all pre facelift cars with Pd units. Only the fr pd170 has a dpf. On all new CR engines, dpf's come as standard. My Gfs mum has a Pd 140. Good mpg, but lacks poke. A remap will help in that regard, and I would suggest if your used too anything remotely quick then you will find the 140 a bit breathless in standard guise

 

[rashedahmed1992]

Of all pre facelift cars with Pd units. Only the fr pd170 has a dpf. On all new CR engines, dpf's come as standard. My Gfs mum has a Pd 140. Good mpg, but lacks poke. A remap will help in that regard, and I would suggest if your used too anything remotely quick then you will find the 140 a bit breathless in standard guise

thanks for that mate...right now i drive a 1.4 corolla so i should see a good improvement in performance when i upgrade
but yeah i will defo remap it and also is there anything i should do before i remap for example air filter/exhaust?

cheers guys for the quick response....its all much appreciated

 

[Leon MK4]

Most rempas are a generic code, so upgrading air filter, exhaust etc wont make any difference to the map. That is unless you have a custom map which is adjusted to ur specific vehicle, in which case, yes do your intake and exhaust before the map.

If the car is due/over due a cambelt change, id suggest you do this before the map. More power = more stress on the belt and no doubt that you will also develope a heavey right foot for a while afterwards too, this will also put more strain on the belt.

 

[phil3186]

ive got a 2.0 tdi 140 and its the sport model so it has the seat 'sports' suspension, while you wont be taking on M3's in this car, it has plenty of in gear grunt in 2nd and 3rd once the turbo has spun up!

so far i will safely say this car is among the best ive owned!

 

[rashedahmed1992]

thanks again for the replies guys
i will most likely be getting my remap done by more-BHP as i have heard good points about them..what do you guys think? they also are the ones that offer up to 190 BHP for this car,
im guessing that this is a generic code map? so there is no point of the air filter/exhaust upgrade first?

thanks Phil for your input, makes me even more happier that i chose the Leon as my second car

 

[rashedahmed1992]

also another thing guys if ya all don't mind me asking is will a remap affect any service requirements?
lets say i want to service my car for example change the oil etc.
will it affect the service indicator?

 

[WeeG]

also another thing guys if ya all don't mind me asking is will a remap affect any service requirements?
lets say i want to service my car for example change the oil etc.
will it affect the service indicator?

nope, it will effect your right foot though

 

[andyspencer]

Depends how much money you want to throw at it.

Performance wise - ditch the exhaust backbox and cat, better filter or cone induction, and then remap to suit. Its the easiest way of getting more power and better sound for (relatively) not much money.

...or if you got a spare few bob, uprate the turbo for a hybrid unit. That'l open the doors for 230+ bhp and 400lbft+ , if you uprate clutch. (I believe injectors on pd140 are good for max 230bhp-ish?)

Stance and appearance - lower it 30-35mm. in my opinion that makes it sit nice enough without compromising comfort or speed humps etc.. And a decent set of rims, obviously thats a personal thing.

All of these tranform this luke-warm hatch into something that competes much higher than it should

 

[Pheo]

How reliable is the stock Turbo with a standard map unto 170BHP.

Would quite like a bit more speed but don't want to blow the thing up!

 

[andyspencer]

How reliable is the stock Turbo with a standard map unto 170BHP.

Would quite like a bit more speed but don't want to blow the thing up!

stock turbo is safe upto 180-185 max i understandand.. however, you must keep ontop of your oil (ie, making sure its topped up and clean) and then avoiding the whole 'cold starts' and 'hot stops' method of driving.

 

[rashedahmed1992]

how much will all of this roughly cost? like upgrading the clutch and hybrid turbo n induction kit n exhaust?
thanks guys, much appreciated by the newbie
after all of these mods these leons must be very quick and keep up with other hot hatches

 

[andyspencer]

how much will all of this roughly cost? like upgrading the clutch and hybrid turbo n induction kit n exhaust?
thanks guys, much appreciated by the newbie
after all of these mods these leons must be very quick and keep up with other hot hatches

Your talking anything from £40 - £300 for induction (Depend on how far u go, ranging from basic pannel filter uprade to full-on open cone with cold feed), then ur talking £200ish for exhaust (back box removal, new tailpipe(s), de-cat)
then your looking at £1050 for stage 2 garrett hybrid turbo (brand new) or less for reconditioning your existing garrett. Then £800 - £1000 for decent clutch (inc. labour) then around £400 ish for hybrid remap.

Total = between £2500 and £3000

like i say, depends on how far you wanna go.

But these 140pd cars can achieve easily 230bhp+ / 400lbft+ .. all of it useable.
If you do go down that route, you will have to be on the ball with service, maintenance, quality fuel, quality oil, and how you drive from cold etc. Its getting sloppy on these things that actually kills your turbo and other components.

 

[rashedahmed1992]

that's OK I guess, not too bad, i will have to see when i get the car but thank you for the rough idea...after all it means everything aha
these cars are very capable then aren't they

 

[dukebox9reg]

i have a 140 sport dsg. i felt when i got it that when driven it felt really flat past 2k. I am running a AMD map now and a pipercross panel filter. It now has 185bhp and 300lbft and now pulls strongly to the redline. It drives so much better and the torque makes it alot easier to drive faster/overtake

Only bad thing as with many mapped diesels, christ its lays some awesome smoke screens down.really does run alot dirtier