Andrewcupra TDI's ride

[Andrewcupra TDI]

ok cheers , let me know if you fond anything on this smokiing lrk

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

well even tho my glow plugs were changed , now and then it stuggles to start

also when cold it bellows out a blue smoke untill warmed up it then hardly smokes ???

 

[brightsideteeem]

sounds like either the timing is slightly out, or dodgy glow plug/harness.
Mine used to do it, i just put up with it but it was a dodgy harness.

Hope all is well in wales land

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

all is well , ive thought about the harness ,

a legend was here over the weekend ken block , wat an aswome driver , not sure on his rallying but to watch his antics on youtube is aswome

if i didnt drown my sorrows after the rugby i should have gone to watch the rally

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

well a little update , not so well in wales , Snow keeps coming ,

issues i currently have :

starting from cold or stood still for few days

hot starting

idle speed needs uping - engine cuts out if i brake sharply , revs drop below minimum

smokes really bad when cold - a blue smoke

all seats have gone boney , can feel metal thru them

also on tick over , if you blip throttle slightly you can hear what sounds like a piston slap / knock
umm cant think what else off top my head


well i made a very short video of the smoking

 

[jonjay]

well a little update , not so well in wales , Snow keeps coming ,

issues i currently have :

starting from cold or stood still for few days

hot starting

idle speed needs uping - engine cuts out if i brake sharply , revs drop below minimum

smokes really bad when cold - a blue smoke

all seats have gone boney , can feel metal thru them

also on tick over , if you blip throttle slightly you can hear what sounds like a piston slap / knock
umm cant think what else off top my head


well i made a very short video of the smoking

Starting from cold - sounds like a battery or starter motor problem. Get these replaced.

Engine cutting when braking - are you pressing the throttle down at same time when your braking hard?

Blue smoke - deisels can do this when its quite cold. Good quality deisel can reduce this. What fuel are you using? Have you ever done logs on the car to check timing?

Seats - Can get these real cheap now mate. Just buy new ones.

knock - open botton, get mrs to rev engine a bit and see if anything it tapping, rubbing?

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

Starting from cold - sounds like a battery or starter motor problem. Get these replaced.

Engine cutting when braking - are you pressing the throttle down at same time when your braking hard?

Blue smoke - deisels can do this when its quite cold. Good quality deisel can reduce this. What fuel are you using? Have you ever done logs on the car to check timing?

Seats - Can get these real cheap now mate. Just buy new ones.

knock - open botton, get mrs to rev engine a bit and see if anything it tapping, rubbing?

Will get battery tested , would it be the timing being out ?

as for engine cutting out, not touchiing brakes and throttle , just braking in traffic ,
markwales tried altering the idle speed , but for somereason its reverted back to being worse than standard now , not sure what went wrong , but just ticks over just above 500rpm mostly , so when u brake the revs dip , and anything below 500rpm engine cuts


my uncle suggested something being dragged back through somewhere , not sure if he meant the fuel or the oil somewhere , ,, and being recycled back through (to explain the smoking )

seats is no big issue at moment

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

hopefully this link will work for vid now

 

[brightsideteeem]

dosnt look that bad to me? Does it clear up when the engine is warmer?

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

not a great deal , not always either , like ealrier , was stuck in traffic and was smoggin the m4 sliproad up with my clouds ,

 

[jonjay]

Will get battery tested , would it be the timing being out ?

Your timing could be out - best to check with vagcom.

as for engine cutting out, not touchiing brakes and throttle , just braking in traffic ,
markwales tried altering the idle speed , but for somereason its reverted back to being worse than standard now , not sure what went wrong , but just ticks over just above 500rpm mostly , so when u brake the revs dip , and anything below 500rpm engine cuts

Sounds like a glow plug or timing related issue. If its bad ever since the mental weather then possibly glowplug is my feeling.

When was your cambelt done last? Did you check timing afterwards?

my uncle suggested something being dragged back through somewhere , not sure if he meant the fuel or the oil somewhere , ,, and being recycled back through (to explain the smoking )

Could be seals or the engine drinking oil. When was your oil last changed and last service? Could be too much oil in there...Like I said when weather is this cold someones they do puff a little blue.

 

[brightsideteeem]

Timing does seem suspect to me. Get it checked asap.

My passat (2.0 TDI) smokes a little bit on start up in this subzero weather, clears up once warm though.

 

[MarkWales]

Recently changed the glow plugs so not them

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

Your timing could be out - best to check with vagcom.


Sounds like a glow plug or timing related issue. If its bad ever since the mental weather then possibly glowplug is my feeling.

When was your cambelt done last? Did you check timing afterwards?



Could be seals or the engine drinking oil. When was your oil last changed and last service? Could be too much oil in there...Like I said when weather is this cold someones they do puff a little blue.

cheers for feedback both

new glow plugs a couple of weeks ago

cambelt done at 60k , now on 82k
oil was done a few months ago , im going to do it again soon though .


how would you check timinig via vagcom ??

other thing too is its lumpy & when lightly reving atound 1200 1500 rpm its very lumpy bumpy

i noticed before that the injection quantity of each injector was different could it stem from there ??

 

[jonjay]

cant remember block now...think its 4,8 or 11.

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

will need to get vagcom back up and running ehm Markwakes !!!!!

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

ok so i vagcomed it earlier with genuine lead and hear it is

Thursday,09,December,2010,16:56:26:06122
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.3
Data version: 20101206



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Chassis Type: 1M - Seat Leon/Toledo
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 35 36 37 46 56

VIN: VSSZZZ1MZ4R055114 Mileage: 133800km/83139miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-019-ARL.lbl
Part No: 038 906 019 KG
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0200SG 5342
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: 66C7DB3728E1
VSSZZZ1MZ4R055114 SEZ7Z0C2263709

1 Fault Found:
16688 - Cylinder 4: Misfire Detected
P0304 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 K
Component: ASR FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0022017
Shop #: WSC 00001 001 00001
VCID: 326F7767D4A9

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1M0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 1M0 820 043 E
Component: 1M-CLIMATRONIC X0702
Coding: 00044
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: 2443813F9E5D

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
Component: 39 AIRBAG VW51 0A 0008
Coding: 13113
Shop #: WSC 06401
VCID: 224F87278449

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1M0-920-xx2-17.lbl
Part No: 1M0 920 922 E
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V05
Coding: 05424
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2B516A03F383
VSSZZZ1MZ4R055114 SEZ7Z0C2263709

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: F0EB3D6F9A25

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 F
Component: A7 Komfortgerát HLO 0003
Coding: 00259
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: 3A7F5F470CD9

Part No: 1C2959802A
Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202

Part No: 1C2959801A
Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202

Part No: 1C0959811A
Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202

Part No: 1C0959812A
Component: A7 Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202

1 Fault Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148)
62-10 - No or Incorrect Adjustment - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 1M0 035 186 J
Component: Radio GRO 1 24
Coding: 00403
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: 2F697E13C79B

2 Faults Found:
00852 - Loudspeaker(s); Front
36-00 - Open Circuit
00856 - Radio Antenna
36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 01: DTCs cleared

 

[MarkWales]

how was the car when you drove it ?

guess the test will be will it start in the morning

 

[Andrewcupra TDI]

yes it started , seems a little better , yours ???

perhaps there wasnt quite enough fuel being injected so fire up ?

 

[jonjay]

Could be a faulty injector or wiring. I would take it to a garage and get it sorted out asap.

Still need to check timing too.