Which induction for LCR

Aug 7, 2009
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I dont think that Open air filters do anything for an N/A engine, ive allways modded airboxes and CAF. But on turbos they and be a plus as your tryingt to compress more air into the cylinder, Go on ebay and get a universal one for pennies, couple with a decent size CAF and bingo.
 

TubbyTwo

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Jan 27, 2010
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LCR owners with induction kits.

Hi all

been playing around with different setups on my LCR as looking into getting a big Jetex filter.

However after having a cone filter on the car for a few days it just doest seem to have the same low down torque that the stock airbox has.

anyone else noticed it?

on my last cars i had excellent results with open cone filters, bit dissapointing on the LCR tho was hoping for a bit more.

just feels like its bogging down if that makes sense?

Highly tempted to go back to the stock setup with an uprated panel filter.

Si
 

adam cupra 20vt

Built Not Bought.
Mar 31, 2005
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I noticed this on my LC but I kept the cone filter as I thought it was better in the mid to top end.......and it sounds a lot better :D
 

JamJay

California Bound
You need to remember that most Japanese cars mount their engine with the inlet manifold at the back, rather than VAGs 1.8T that has it front mounted. This obviously means that the exhaust manifold and turbocharger will be front mounted on the Japanese engines which allows for better cooling of the filter and increased airflow. This doesn't mean that the same isn't achieveable on your 1.8T, it will just take a little more thought :).

Edit: The above is assuming you mean a FWD Japanese turbo car and nothing with a longitual engine setup or of course boxer setup but then again, they still mount their filters up front.

I found the same as you with a Neuspeed filter connected directly to the MAF meter housing, really boggy low down and I hated it. So I bought a silicone hose joiner, a metal hose coupler and a JETEX FC-08001 conical air filter. I used the spacer and coupler to push the filter right into the passenger side wing, away from the intense heat rising up towards it from the manifold and turbocharger. I however didn't stop there and custom made my own cold air feed, giving cool air a clear path to the air filter, unlike the awful OE setup. Results were and instant improvement, low down power was back, the car felt smoother both when idling and driving with low revs, problem solved.
 
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TubbyTwo

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Jan 27, 2010
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I have been reading through peoples posts about different fittings.

JamJay you may have jsut swayed the decision then :)

just had a quick look at your build thread, will go for a similar setup then if it works.

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LEE69

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Dec 10, 2004
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Has anyone done any temperature testing to see the difference between having that enclosure and not, and what the standard air box temperature is?
 

JamJay

California Bound
Well it's worth a go. It's been proven by other members that an open cone filter can flow greater than any airbox setup so it's really just a case of feeding the filter with as much dense (cooler) air as possible so it can draw in greater volumes.

In my opinion, locating the battery where it is was an afterthought by VW. The engine bay is too small for it and mounting it at the front has come at a compromise of the cars performance, hence a few members have now relocated theirs to the boot and located the air filter in it's place.
 

TubbyTwo

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Jan 27, 2010
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i was thinking of moving the battery.

hmm.

As long as the car is moving the temps should be pretty good, im going to try and get a couple of air feeds to the filter.

when your stationary i would imaging the heatsoak would be quite high, however i have removed the bonnet lining so hope that helps. :)
 

JamJay

California Bound
Has anyone done any temperature testing to see the difference between having that enclosure and not, and what the standard air box temperature is?

In completely non scientific terms the shield is always warm to the touch, where as the filter, joiner and coupler are always stone cold after a drive or fairly cool when idling. Cooling would be further aided if the shield had a base to it to prevent any hot air rising into the 'filter chamber'.
 

filbro

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Jun 23, 2008
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I copied JamJay and Jon. The Jetex set up with coupler and joiner plus cold feed.
Car performs exactly as stock airbox with pipercross filter.

No loss in performance. Noise is nice, bit louder than I expected to be honest but am getting used to it.

Need to sort heat shield but like I say at the moment its ok without one!
 

rsmith

Robbie
Apr 28, 2004
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I copied JamJay and Jon. The Jetex set up with coupler and joiner plus cold feed.
Car performs exactly as stock airbox with pipercross filter.

No loss in performance. Noise is nice, bit louder than I expected to be honest but am getting used to it.

Need to sort heat shield but like I say at the moment its ok without one!

Can i be in your gang :lol: same here, i have mine as far over to the wing as possible.The Jetex is by far the best filter i have ever put on the car, consistently reads between 207-210g/s, Neuspeed filter consistently reads 199g/s
i have not found a need for a CAI, but do plan on making a one some day and i have not found the low end grunt to be affected, i always thought it was poor on the LCR anyway.

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filbro

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Jun 23, 2008
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Can i be in your gang :lol: same here, i have mine as far over to the wing as possible.The Jetex is by far the best filter i have ever put on the car, consistently reads between 207-210g/s, Neuspeed filter consistently reads 199g/s
i have not found a need for a CAI, but do plan on making a one some day and i have not found the low end grunt to be affected, i always thought it was poor on the LCR anyway.

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Yes you can be in the 'gang' :D

Nice bay btw - is heatshield self made??
 

Lewis225

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May 30, 2008
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I'm ot that clued up n the outcom of my idea and I've got my stella goggles as been on an aternoon session, but wy cant the filter be on the oter end of the cod air feed i(twards borrom and of engine wher its cols rather then the top wher its hot with the cold aor feed blowing on the filter
 

LEE69

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Dec 10, 2004
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I'm ot that clued up n the outcom of my idea and I've got my stella goggles as been on an aternoon session, but wy cant the filter be on the oter end of the cod air feed i(twards borrom and of engine wher its cols rather then the top wher its hot with the cold aor feed blowing on the filter

Quoted ;)

Yes you can get filters that go down in the splash guards.
Can't see the point myself though if it is going to get instantly warmed up by a red hot turbo.:shrug::shrug:
 

SalSheikh

Under the Hood
Sep 2, 2009
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i fitted my induction kit yesterday (finally), here's some pics.
i had an old but unused heatshield off my old Golf mk3 and it fit so I used it!
I had to cut down the plastic cold air feed a bit but after I cut it I immediately realised I cut the wrong end (oops), luckily I has some aluminium ducting (4") so used that. I think I need to remove the heathsield so it gives me space to move the filter around a bit, unless I use some 45 degree hose.

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I has to butcher the SAI hose to make the breather filter to fit:
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