ChrisGTL - MK1 LCR 225 - Going from APR to REVO

[ChrisGTL]

Here I am to start my second progress thread.

2005 1.8T LCR 225 - Ebony Black
Engine Code: BAM


DOA: 13/03/2010

 

[ChrisGTL]

Spoke to Andy @ AwesomeGTI to sort me a package out....

First trip to AwesomeGTI will see me having:-

-KW V1 Coilovers
-Neuspeed 25mm Front ARB
-Neuspeed 28mm Rear ARB
-Neuspeed Short-Shift
-K&N Panel Filter
-Dog-Bone Mount
-APR Stage 1 Remap
-Cruise Control (for all the valet mode/map selection/security etc goodies)
-Forge 007p
-Samco TIP

This will be done as soon as AwesomeGTI can fit me in after I pick car up 13/03/2010.

 

[brad1]

Good choice of car mate and nice selection of mods. Cant wait to see the pics

 

[ChrisGTL]

Good choice of car mate and nice selection of mods. Cant wait to see the pics

Thanks, i'm like a kid at Christmas at mo. Can't wait to get the car and have all the mods done to it.

Other mods I will be doing in the meantime are the Fabia rear wiper and 6000k HIDS.


Not sure if to go for a straight panel filter or induction kit........plenty time though to make my mind up.

 

[Craigus]

You know wat i think matey.

 

[Damoegan]

Got the mods on order before you even pick the car up, Chris

Thats the way to do it mate

 

[ChrisGTL]

You know wat i think matey.

I think you think wahhaaay double trouble at the ring.

Got the mods on order before you even pick the car up, Chris

Thats the way to do it mate

It has to be done Damo. No time like the present.

 

[DPJ]

Nice one, Chris!

 

[ChrisGTL]

Nice one, Chris!

Cheers Mr Dave. Your like my magical dream uncle.

It's your fault i'm going LCR crazy.

 

[DPJ]

Cheers Mr Dave. Your like my magical dream uncle.

It's your fault i'm going LCR crazy.

I kind of guessed that. I'm guilt-ridden.

 

[jonjay]

Blimey must be the quickest change of cars I ever seen.

Great choice and great mods. You will love it.

 

[alx_chung]

Wow! That is quick and the list of mods is impressive too!
Alex

 

[ChrisGTL]

First mods ordered:-

-KW V1 Inox-Line Coilovers

-Powerflex Front Wishbone Front Bush Cast Arm
-Powerflex Front Wishbone Rear Bush Cast Arm
-Powerflex ARB Link Bush
-Powerflex Steering Rack Mount Bush
-Powerflex Engine Mount Dog-Bone Mount
-Powerflex Rear Beam Mounting Bush

Cracking price from DPM, cheers Damian

 

[ChrisGTL]

Second mod ordered:-

H7 6000K HIDS

 

[ChrisGTL]

Car is now sat on my drive.....looking all sexy!!

Stipped down TB, cleaned air filter, dielectric grease on MAF. Done 200 miles with some Millers Petrol one-shot.

Here are logs:-

Saturday	13	March	2010	21:54:44						
1ML 906 032 A  		1.8l R4/5VT         0002								
										
	Group A:	003				Group B:	020			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization
	TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
	27.56	2240	22.06	14.1	30	27.96	0	0	0	0
	28.36	2280	41.89	30.2	21.8	28.76	0	0	0	0
	29.16	2400	62.81	98	15.8	29.56	0	0	0	0
	29.98	2560	84.75	100	8.3	30.47	0	0	0	0
	30.87	2800	84.44	100	9	31.39	0	0	0	0
	31.79	3040	91.83	100	12.8	32.19	0	0	0	0
	32.68	3320	94.5	100	16.5	33.08	0	0	0	0
	33.5	3520	100.47	100	18	33.99	0	0	0	0
	34.4	3760	109.89	100	19.5	34.91	0	0	3	0
	35.4	4040	117.86	100	18.8	35.8	0	0	3	0
	36.2	4240	121.11	100	19.5	36.62	0	0	3	0
	37.11	4440	126.53	100	18.8	37.52	0	0	2.3	0
	38.03	4680	131.11	100	15.8	38.52	0	0	2.3	0
	38.92	4840	138.94	100	15.8	39.43	0	0	1.5	0
	39.93	5080	143.92	100	15.8	40.33	0	0	1.5	0
	40.84	5280	155.75	100	16.5	41.24	0	0	0.8	0
	41.64	5440	161.28	100	15.8	42.14	0	0	0.8	0
	42.54	5600	169.97	100	12.8	42.95	0	0	3.8	0
	43.45	5800	173.67	100	15	43.85	0	0	3.8	0
	44.25	5920	173.39	100	17.3	44.66	0	0	3	0
	45.16	6040	173.39	100	18	45.56	0	0	1.5	0
	45.96	6200	171.36	99.6	20.3	46.36	0	0	1.5	0
	46.78	6320	170.75	100	19.5	47.18	0	0	1.5	0
	47.58	6400	167.58	100	23.3	47.98	0	0	0	3
	48.38	6480	165.83	99.6	21.8	48.79	0	0	0	3
	49.19	6560	165.75	100	20.3	49.59	0	0	0	3
	49.99	6640	106.25	99.2	20.3	50.41	0	0	0	0
	50.89	6440	15.39	10.6	8.3	51.29	0	0	0	0

 

[ChrisGTL]

Saturday	13	March	2010	21:48:50						
1ML 906 032 A  		1.8l R4/5VT         0002								
										
	Group A:	003				Group B:	115			
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar
	118.99	2440	8.64	6.3	34.5	119.39	2480	18.8	1000	1010
	119.9	2480	8.5	6.3	34.5	120.3	2480	18	1000	1010
	120.7	2520	8.19	6.3	35.3	121.1	2520	18	1000	1010
	121.61	2520	8.44	6.3	35.3	122.01	2560	18	1000	1010
	122.41	2560	8.53	6.3	35.3	122.91	2560	18	1000	1010
	123.32	2560	8.5	6.3	35.3	123.72	2560	18.8	1000	1010
	124.22	2600	25.03	15.3	30.8	124.62	2720	69.9	1100	1050
	125.02	2800	40	20.8	28.5	125.42	2920	87.2	1400	1280
	125.83	3040	64.03	26.3	26.3	126.23	3240	105.3	1470	1520
	126.63	3400	74.92	32.5	26.3	127.03	3600	94	1000	1460
	127.43	3080	5	5.5	0.8	127.83	2880	23.3	1010	1080
	128.25	2960	50	25.5	27.8	128.75	3080	106	1510	1480
	129.15	3200	92.31	93.3	19.5	129.66	3360	147.4	1800	1760
	130.06	3520	101.56	100	15.8	130.55	3720	152.6	1790	1780
	131.07	3880	111.89	100	18.8	131.47	4000	151.9	1780	1800
	131.87	4120	120.81	99.6	18	132.36	4240	149.6	1790	1800
	132.76	4360	129.56	100	18	133.18	4440	149.6	1790	1790
	133.67	4600	131.94	100	12.8	134.08	4680	145.1	1780	1790
	134.59	4800	133.75	99.6	12.8	135.08	4920	151.1	1780	1750
	135.48	5000	141.44	100	15.8	135.88	5080	150.4	1800	1770
	136.3	5160	149.11	100	16.5	136.79	5240	151.1	1830	1820
	137.19	5320	157.69	100	15.8	137.59	5400	156.4	1860	1860
	137.99	5480	166.5	100	16.5	138.41	5560	156.4	1880	1870
	138.81	5640	170.22	99.6	15.8	139.21	5720	161.7	1890	1900
	139.61	5760	174.69	100	15.8	140.01	5840	154.1	1890	1920
	140.52	5920	176.58	100	14.3	140.92	6000	155.6	1860	1890
	141.32	6040	173.39	99.6	18	141.82	6120	151.1	1820	1860
	142.23	6200	171.94	100	12.8	142.63	6240	145.9	1780	1780
	143.14	6320	168.83	100	20.3	143.64	6360	134.6	1760	1800
	144.04	6440	170.53	99.6	21	144.55	6480	132.3	1730	1770
	144.95	6520	163.75	99.6	22.5	145.34	6360	12	1000	1500
	145.75	6400	11.33	10.2	8.3	146.25	6280	12	1000	1100
	146.65	6120	14.17	9.8	8.3	147.16	6040	12	1000	1060
	147.66	5920	14.14	9.8	7.5	148.06	5840	12.8	1000	1050
	148.46	5720	14.17	9.4	6.8	148.85	5640	12.8	1000	1050

Saturday	13	March	2010	21:59:00				
1ML 906 032 A  		1.8l R4/5VT         0002						
								
	Group A:	118				Group B:	032	
		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.		Lambda	Lambda
	TIME					TIME		
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar	STAMP	%	%
	31.47	2160	17	95.3	1410	30.97	-0.4	-4.7
	32.28	2400	15	80.4	1720	31.88	-0.4	-4.7
	33.08	2680	14	63.1	1950	32.67	-0.4	-4.7
	33.88	2960	12	61.6	1840	33.48	-0.4	-4.7
	34.7	3240	12	60.8	1800	34.3	-0.4	-4.7
	35.59	3520	12	60.4	1810	35.1	-0.4	-4.7
	36.41	3760	12	60.8	1800	36.01	-0.4	-4.7
	37.21	3960	12	59.6	1790	36.81	-0.4	-4.7
	38.01	4160	12	58.8	1770	37.61	-0.4	-4.7
	38.82	4360	12	59.6	1810	38.41	-0.4	-4.7
	39.72	4560	13	59.2	1800	39.32	-0.4	-4.7
	40.63	4760	14	59.6	1770	40.23	-0.4	-4.7
	41.43	4920	15	58	1770	41.03	-0.4	-4.7
	42.23	5120	15	59.6	1790	41.83	-0.4	-4.7
	43.05	5280	16	61.2	1820	42.63	-0.4	-4.7
	43.85	5440	17	62.4	1840	43.45	-0.4	-4.7
	44.76	5640	18	63.5	1860	44.34	-0.4	-4.7
	45.66	5800	19	65.9	1870	45.26	-0.4	-4.7
	46.47	5960	20	63.1	1880	46.07	-0.4	-4.7
	47.27	6080	21	63.1	1870	46.87	-0.4	-4.7
	48.07	6200	21	63.1	1810	47.67	-0.4	-4.7
	48.87	6320	23	60.8	1780	48.47	-0.4	-4.7
	49.69	6400	23	60	1780	49.29	-0.4	-4.7
	50.5	6520	24	58	1750	50.09	-0.4	-4.7
	51.38	6560	24	53.3	1670	51	-0.4	-4.7
	52.31	6440	23	0	1240	51.8	-0.4	-4.7
	53.21	6280	23	0	1090	52.79	-0.4	-4.7
	54.1	6080	24	0	1060	53.7	-0.4	-4.7
	54.92	5880	24	0	1050	54.5	-0.4	-4.7
	55.72	5680	24	0	1050	55.32	-0.4	-4.7
	56.52	5520	24	0	1040	56.12	-0.4	-4.7

 

[jonjay]

So common Chris let me know your opinion. Be good to see what your thoughts are lcr vs tdi.

 

[ChrisGTL]

So common Chris let me know your opinion. Be good to see what your thoughts are lcr vs tdi.

OK, here goes.

First thoughts of driving the LCR were.......wheres the bloody power then?

It's taken me 200 miles to get used to the difference in driving style of TDI vs Petrol. I've been so used to using such a short band of revs to get the TDI upto speed it's taken me a while to understand/get used to where the power is on a LCR.

The TDI was such a easy car to drive, mass amounts of torque on-tap which was almost instant. The LCR is very different, more actual driving needed to get the performance out of it. I do love the never ending RPM's that just pull, pull, pull...even just before redline the car motors on.

Other differences that are very noticble, the exhaust and engine movement. Everytime I came to a junction I thought it had stalled, so smooth on idle after the TDI rattling my fillings out. I'm so much happier hearing my exhaust over the engine.......i've been driving round freezing my butt off just so I can hear the exhaust rasping away.

Gearbox doesnt seem as nice as my old TDI, the LCR is not notchy don't get me wrong, infact it's a little too easy to select gear if that makes any sense. The TDI had more resistance when going through the gears which I liked - now this could either be because of the different clutch setup or because of the SACHS uprated clutch on the TDI or because i'm not used to not having the short-shift. I don't think its the SACHS because the OEM clutch and SACHS clutch were almost identical to use. I have a funny feeling its the short shift missing that makes it feel just too easy.

Ride is alot crashier on the LCR, I guess the shocks are alot older than the new Eibachs I had on the TDI, also the 18's on the LCR have lower profile tyres by quite a bit so this will contribute towards it feeling more crashier over bumps etc. Not as much rubber to soften the blow on these crappy UK so called roads.

I love the black roof lol, it makes the inside feel so much more...........nicer.

That's about it really. Just a waiting game now for my bits n bobs to turn up.

 

[jonjay]

Cool, you just have to adjust to it and you will probably notice more differences. I think the map makes a massive difference to the car. You got a great list of mods coming so should be exciting few weeks for you.

 

[Willie]

Nice one Chris, can I recommend a good oil for you

LOL

You seem to have sorted a very good list of mods, I'm surprised you've gone for the Powerflex DBM bush as this can be very harsh and cause moving off issues.
Also surprised you've gone for Powerflex ARB bushes, have you confirmed these will fit your new ARB?

Also can I recommend between a 20-25mm drop in ride height.

As said very nice car and looking like its gonna be very well specced very soon