FR Remap Question !

[Easty]

I pick up my new Leon FR TDI on May 1st, and it will be getting the dealer remap before I pick it up. In the past i've run the Green Cotton Air Filters on previous cars, but have never had a remap done on any of them.

Is there anything else you can recommend through your experience of this cars which I should get changed pre-remap... not bothered about changing the exhaust at all !

Ta !

 

[OLDOILER]

I pick up my new Leon FR TDI on May 1st, and it will be getting the dealer remap before I pick it up. In the past i've run the Green Cotton Air Filters on previous cars, but have never had a remap done on any of them.

Is there anything else you can recommend through your experience of this cars which I should get changed pre-remap... not bothered about changing the exhaust at all ! Ta !

Unless you have a very understanding Dealer I would leave off mapping until you have at least 5k on the clock. otherwise Seat UK will quite rightly void any claims regarding engine/trans - let the lump bed in first just incase the car has a "fault" !!

 

[Easty]

Unless you have a very understanding Dealer I would leave off mapping until you have at least 5k on the clock. otherwise Seat UK will quite rightly void any claims regarding engine/trans - let the lump bed in first just incase the car has a "fault" !!

Fair enough, they didn't mention anything about that at the sales desk, but better safe than sorry... it's gonna take me a year to do that kind of mileage

 

[Wellsy]

Sorry if I've missed something...but Seat offer an approved re-map for the leon FR TDI? Info please...mine may well get one!

 

[wjohnson]

Are u sure about that? Last I heard was seat vw and Audi doing sneaky remaps on 170 tdis to reduce the power due to the dpf clogging problem. If they are willingly now increasing it above the standard Im gonna be buying shares in the company that makes the dpf filters

 

[munkyboy]

My mate had a map done by Seat when he bought the car new and he had a full warranty on the car even with the map on. I thought he wouldn't have warranty but his turbo blew up and its all been replaced and fixed under warranty

 

[Wellsy]

How much of a difference does the map make...numbers please if anyone has them!

 

[wjohnson]

I'm amazed Seat will happily map a DPF engine knowing how many of the blooming things are clogging and causing all kinds of issues. It's obviously dependant on power output as Seat have been detuning 170 TDI engines to 150-160bhp to avoid the problem so I can't see them doing the opposite. If you just search on this forum for DPF problem it will flag many many people having problems with it.

 

[Wellsy]

OK I know there's quite an issue with DPF's clogging...but are you trying to tell me that my FR550 that was bought 'Approved Used' about 3 weeks ago, has between 150 and 160 hp...not the 170 that it is advertised at? I'm slightly confused.

 

[techie]

My mate had a map done by Seat when he bought the car new and he had a full warranty on the car even with the map on. I thought he wouldn't have warranty but his turbo blew up and its all been replaced and fixed under warranty

Thats not an exceptionally clever thing to say on a forum that SEAT watch.

His warranty will be void on the turbo by the map. When a dealer map a car they take on the risk themselves. They have two options should the engine have issues. Not say anything to SEAT and make a fraudulant claim and hope that SEAT don't check up on vehicle software or they can stump up the repair bill themselves and then argue with the remap company.

All if this is fine unless the dealership goes bust, looses its franchise etc and then you have a car with a warranty issue.

 

[munkyboy]

Thats not an exceptionally clever thing to say on a forum that SEAT watch.

His warranty will be void on the turbo by the map. When a dealer map a car they take on the risk themselves. They have two options should the engine have issues. Not say anything to SEAT and make a fraudulant claim and hope that SEAT don't check up on vehicle software or they can stump up the repair bill themselves and then argue with the remap company.

All if this is fine unless the dealership goes bust, looses its franchise etc and then you have a car with a warranty issue.

Well this is what seat have done. I refused to believe that seat would give a warranty but he has had many more problems before the turbo including the ecu and seat replaced it for him with the map on as well. Surely since they have fixed it they haven't voided his warranty

 

[Easty]

Having spoken with the Sales Guy again he said the remap would not affect the warranty in any way as it's done by themselves on a personal basis. It's one with an optional switch and he said they have been getting around 205-210bhp after the map... I guess they drive the car around with the computer plugged into the diagnostics to get a precise map though...

Do the new 2010 FR's still have a problem with the dpf filters ?!

Interesting reading the comments though regarding the dealers possibly offering the warranties behind SEAT's back, but tbh as long as the dealer are willing to honour that (I will get them to sign for it !!!) then winner

 

[n_d_fox]

Having spoken with the Sales Guy again he said the remap would not affect the warranty in any way as it's done by themselves on a personal basis. It's one with an optional switch and he said they have been getting around 205-210bhp after the map... I guess they drive the car around with the computer plugged into the diagnostics to get a precise map though...

Do the new 2010 FR's still have a problem with the dpf filters ?!

Interesting reading the comments though regarding the dealers possibly offering the warranties behind SEAT's back, but tbh as long as the dealer are willing to honour that (I will get them to sign for it !!!) then winner

the face lift FR tdi has the CR engine which is cleaner burning than the old PD engine, in short no, or at least none have caused problems that i have heard about yet.

 

[Wellsy]

Having spoken with the Sales Guy again...

Which dealership is this, and the sales guy?

 

[n_d_fox]

are you sure he should be giving that sort of info out on a forum we know Seat lookk at ?

 

[Wellsy]

OK fair point....PM me! (If you can seeing as I'm still a newbie?!)

 

[munkyboy]

I dont think there is anything to hide. Seat are the ones letting the cars out with a remap and giving them the same warranty so there is no dark story here I dont think. I dont think it is the sales man is saying not to mention anything about the map.

When I bought my car they said there was a company that did their remaps and they have a warranty on them.

 

[Nath.]

the face lift FR tdi has the CR engine which is cleaner burning than the old PD engine, in short no, or at least none have caused problems that i have heard about yet.

Not sure I follow you with this. A very reliable Seat technician has said on here that he has seen many DPF faults but not one of them was actually due to a clogged DPF filter, rather that the sensors fail and flag up a fault as if the filter is clogged when it actually isn't.

I personally reckon that the extreme heat from the DPF melts the sensors.

 

[r3dg3cko rob]

Is there deffinately a direct relationship between the remaps and the DPF issue then? I read up about it before we bought ours and checked with the dealer to see make sure there weren't any existing problems with the car but I never found anything online to suggest that it was connected to higher power tuning set-ups?

the plan was to remap in the summer, so I'm slightly concerned now?

 

[OLDOILER]

Is there deffinately a direct relationship between the remaps and the DPF issue then? I read up about it before we bought ours and checked with the dealer to see make sure there weren't any existing problems with the car but I never found anything online to suggest that it was connected to higher power tuning set-ups?

the plan was to remap in the summer, so I'm slightly concerned now?

The Super chips remap I have fitted, when first put on the market did indeed have problems at 214hp this was then reduced to around 210hp and I had had NO problems since [ apart from power derating when using VPower at 4.5k rpm for sustained periods] now used super market plus millers additive and NO problems