ibiza mk2 cupra - 8v or 16v to choose?

[vngtx]

i need help deciding which to buy, ive seen a 2.0 16v in black for the same price as a 2.0 8v in copper. im torn between the 2




(RIP RED IBIZA)

 

[envycordoba]

get the 16 valver mate much better engine

 

[vngtx]

could it handle a turbo?

 

[suj]

could it handle a turbo?

what do you mean by that? are you thinking of turbo'ing it?
if so why not just put a 1.8 20VT from a mk3 cupra in....better still buy a mk3 cupra instead?
less hassle etc.

 

[vngtx]

it wud cost much less and i just want sumthin mentally fast.

 

[vngtx]

the 2.0 16v is just as fast as mk3 1.8 20vt at standard without the turbo, i wanna see if it can reach 250-280hp. the manifold for it is 250, second hand k03 turbo 120ish, intercooler 100, plus the rest. i cant afford a mk3 cos they start at 3 grand

 

[suj]

yeah well there is alot to do mate, pistons etc.
when you weigh up costs, it's more economical for a mk3, as it will cost 3-4k on top of the 16v really if you thing realistically!

 

[Dave_R]

the 2.0 16v is just as fast as mk3 1.8 20vt at standard without the turbo, i wanna see if it can reach 250-280hp. the manifold for it is 250, second hand k03 turbo 120ish, intercooler 100, plus the rest. i cant afford a mk3 cos they start at 3 grand

Plus the ecu and mapping it, as its already been said pistons, custom made inlet manifold.... joy of making a fmic fit etc....

With the Mk3 you pay £400 for a stage one map and it's 180bhp straight away before you playing about with the exhaust, fmic, air filter etc.... easy to get 220bhp for not too much money or hard work!

Be nice to see a 16vT done or a supercharged ABF, if you have the cash and no how then go for it! Know of a Mk1 Golf with a ABF engine turbo'd, 4WD using the Rallye running gear pushing 400+bhp, think I wet myself when I was looking under the bonnet!

 

[vngtx]

whats the most people have got out of the ABF?

 

[Dave_R]

like I said the most I've seen is 400+bhp, mine will be running 210-215bhp (hopefully) on throttle bodies, F2 Stu's is 225bhp maybe more with the mod's he haa in mind (again throttle bodies) and there's RobT but that isn't an ABF.

Forced Induction..... no ones done it on here, seen turbo kits for sale on Club GTi mind.

 

[vngtx]

ive seen turbo inlets and exhausts for american vws with the 2.0 engine, not sure if they wud fit abf.

 

[Dave_R]

ive seen turbo inlets and exhausts for american vws with the 2.0 engine, not sure if they wud fit abf.

Don't think they will, usually the american kits are for the 8v.... look on Club GTi, I have seen a few turbo kits for sale on there

 

[vngtx]

im still stuck on my original problem since i got carried away. 8v or 16v? i can only find one cupra in black thats a 16v for my budget. wats the best colour?

 

[AlpineWhite]

it wud cost much less and i just want sumthin mentally fast.

it won't cost less. if you haven't got 3k for a mk3, you sure haven't got enough for a mk2 16vt

 

[vngtx]

got enough for the car and a few hundred left over but its a long term project. ive seen a g60 ibiza for same price as cupra but thats still more than i can afford

 

[AlpineWhite]

oh, and back to the original question - 16v may be quicker but it's more temperamental. You pays your money etc

 

[vngtx]

i really just want to off the in saxo vtr's that think theyre cool.


found this on ebay : Item number: 350299538645

 

[vngtx]

does the 16v have extra dials at the bottom of the centre console?

 

[Dave_R]

only the Cupra 2 which didn't come to the UK and a few of the 1.6 Sport did. You sure it was a Ibiza G60 or G40? Only G60 I know of and it isn't in the UK, G40 is local to me but I know he's had a few running problems.

And for the "best colour" which ever colour you like!

 

[Dave_R]

oh, and back to the original question - 16v may be quicker but it's more temperamental. You pays your money etc

I don't know about that..... I know a few people with Mk3's and I've had less problems, you gotta love lump mode on the Mk3's lmao

But on that note, last year me and philw (mk3 20vT) and a few other mates went to do 3 sessions at Castle Combe on the saturday drive upto Silverstone saturday evening/night straight from Combe and then do 2 sessions at Silverstone on SUnday and out of 5 of us only me and Phil managed to do the full weekend and drive home!